Mickey 17 (2025)
Was it Fine Enough to Blow Our Minds?
Mickey 17 (2025) Spoiler-Free Movie Review
In this episode we discuss the movie, Mickey 17 (along with tangents about Moviefone, megalomania, and manipulation...topics that may be as little too close to home).
Mickey 17 Movie Details:
Release Date: March 7, 2025
Length: 2h 17m
Rated: PG-13
Genre: Sci-Fi, Adventure, Dark Comedy
Director: Bong Joon-ho
Writer: Bong Joon-ho (screenplay), based on the novel Mickey7 by Edward Ashton
Producer(s): Plan B Entertainment
Distributed by: Warner Bros. Pictures
Main Cast: Robert Pattinson, Mark Ruffalo, Toni Collette, Steven Yeun, Naomi Ackie
Where to Watch: Premium Subscriptions: HBO MAX, Hulu, YouTube Primetime, YouTube TV, The Roku Channel, Amazon Prime Video and Sling TV. Watch for $5.99 on Apple TV, Fandango at Home, and the Google Play Store.
Synopsis: "A disposable employee is sent on a human expedition to colonize the ice world Niflheim. After one iteration dies, a new body is regenerated with most of his memories intact."
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<BOBBY>There's been movies like...
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<ASHLEY>The Parent Trap.
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<BOBBY>The Parent Trap.
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<BOBBY>Welcome to Microsodes.
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<ASHLEY>Hello, and welcome to another episode of...
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<BOBBY>Okay, that's...
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<BOBBY>You sound like you're hosting, like, one of those shows where they opened a book on PBS and the kids are gonna start watching it.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, exactly.
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<BOBBY>None of that.
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<BOBBY>Hit it straight up, you got it.
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<ASHLEY>Welcome to another episode of Microsodes.
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<ASHLEY>I am Ashley.
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<BOBBY>And I'm Bobby.
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<ASHLEY>And today, we will be discussing the movie Mickey 17.
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<BOBBY>Oh yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Also, I have to forewarn everyone, we are getting over a cold, so if I sound weird, that is why.
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<ASHLEY>I apologize ahead of time.
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<BOBBY>If I sound weird just because it's me.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>I'll go with that.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So we're gonna be doing Mickey 17 today, is that right?
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>Well, as you guys know, if you've been tuning in, the very first thing that we do is we give out the movie details for the film.
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<ASHLEY>So what are the movie details for this feature film?
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<BOBBY>I'd be happy to provide them.
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<ASHLEY>Thank you.
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<ASHLEY>I'd be so appreciative.
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<ASHLEY>And so would our listeners, I'm sure.
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<BOBBY>So the movie name is Mickey 17.
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<BOBBY>The release date was March 7th of 2025.
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<BOBBY>There's a few different genres.
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<BOBBY>I don't, I'm going to read them all.
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<BOBBY>You can take from it what you will.
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<BOBBY>So dark comedy, space sci-fi, adventure, comedy, fantasy, sci-fi and alien invasion are the genres that they have currently listed.
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<BOBBY>Now I'm guessing that probably if you were to do a quick search, it would probably say adventure, comedy, fantasy.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<BOBBY>But that's what was in the IMDb.
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<BOBBY>The runtime is two hours and 17 minutes.
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<BOBBY>It has a rating of hard R.
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<ASHLEY>Hard R?
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<BOBBY>That was just me making a joke.
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<ASHLEY>Oh.
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<BOBBY>It's just a rating of R.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, okay.
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<BOBBY>The platforms in which you can currently watch it are Macs for free, Hulu Premium for free, YouTube Premium for free, Roku Premium for free, Amazon Prime.
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<BOBBY>And those are the only places that you can watch it for free.
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<BOBBY>As it stands right now, as the posting of this, you can watch it on Apple TV+ for $5.99, Google Play TV for also $5.99, and finally, Fandango at Home for $5.99.
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<ASHLEY>Is that it?
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<ASHLEY>You're done with where to watch?
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<BOBBY>Correct.
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<ASHLEY>I have to say I really enjoy hearing you say all of those and the ones that are $5.99 because it reminds me of you know, you're telling me about when we were kids and you'd call the movie theater to see The Times.
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<BOBBY>Mr.
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<BOBBY>Movie Phone, I think was the name of it when I was young and growing up.
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<BOBBY>Sometimes the newspapers wouldn't print out the movie times and there wasn't ways for you to figure out what the movie times were.
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<BOBBY>So there was either an 800 number or a number that was linked directly to a local movie theater.
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<BOBBY>And when you would dial it up, it would say, hello and welcome to Dialing Mr.
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<BOBBY>Movie Phone.
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<BOBBY>You would press the number for where you wanted to go to see the movie and then it would list the movies in order alphabetically and then it would tell you the times they were showing.
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<ASHLEY>Could you click on your phone if it was like one that started with K for instance?
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<ASHLEY>Could you dial like five or?
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<BOBBY>No, you had to literally.
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<ASHLEY>You had to listen to the whole thing?
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<BOBBY>There was a, cause it was a recording.
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<BOBBY>So it wasn't intelligent enough to know that you were going to press a number for a certain movie.
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<BOBBY>You had to listen to them all.
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<ASHLEY>Oh my gosh.
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<ASHLEY>What if it was like Zoolander?
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<ASHLEY>That would suck.
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<BOBBY>I mean, any of the movies that were at the very bottom.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Well, you would think like, okay, so true lies, right?
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<BOBBY>You're like, oh, well that one's easily towards the bottom.
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<BOBBY>It was like the last airbender.
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<BOBBY>You would think, oh, well, A is at the top, but it was going off of T because it would be the.
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<ASHLEY>Wow.
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<BOBBY>And so you would press those buttons and then you would listen to all of the different movie times and you'd write them all down.
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<BOBBY>And then you would decide what movie you guys wanted to go and see and the time that you wanted to go and see it.
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<ASHLEY>I wouldn't like it.
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<BOBBY>No, it's a terrible system.
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<BOBBY>But I think that was the only thing that you could do at the time other than drive to the actual theater, go to the box office.
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<BOBBY>You would see what movies, what times and then also what theaters they were playing in.
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<BOBBY>Because once you got there, you're expected to know where you're supposed to go to.
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<ASHLEY>Really?
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>They would tear it and they're like, Oh, you're in theater, too.
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<BOBBY>And you better know where you're going.
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<BOBBY>Because if not, you're going to be fighting against a lot of people.
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<BOBBY>Because when I was growing up, we only had a theater that had three screens.
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<ASHLEY>So you had theaters that were filled like that.
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<ASHLEY>And it wasn't for like a launch or a launch.
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<ASHLEY>It wasn't for like a premiere.
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<BOBBY>No, that was just like what you had to watch.
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<BOBBY>It was a very popular movie.
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<BOBBY>Usually you would wait two weeks before you go and see it because you knew there was only so many theaters.
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<BOBBY>And unless you were standing in line for the next one, there wasn't any way for you to get in.
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<BOBBY>Wow.
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<BOBBY>Because the theater was sold out.
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<ASHLEY>That's crazy.
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<BOBBY>It just, that's the way that movies worked when I was growing up.
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<ASHLEY>Wow.
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<ASHLEY>That's pretty cool though.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>So there you go.
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<BOBBY>So the distributor was Warner Bros.
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<BOBBY>And that's the reason why it's on Max.
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<BOBBY>Cause everything that comes out on Warner Bros.
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<BOBBY>goes on to Max.
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<ASHLEY>Oh.
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<BOBBY>And the director was Bong Joon-ho.
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<BOBBY>Now I hadn't heard of this guy before.
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<BOBBY>However, after looking it up, he was the person that directed Parasite, which won the Academy Award in 2020 for the best film and best director.
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<BOBBY>So he was the one that was in charge of putting this all together.
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<ASHLEY>Bong Joon-ho.
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<BOBBY>I think so.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<BOBBY>But that's who directed the film.
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<ASHLEY>Perfect.
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<ASHLEY>Thank you.
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<BOBBY>Of course.
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<BOBBY>So now you're going to watch the trailer.
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<BOBBY>And then we're going to go over the synopsis and we'll go from there.
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<ASHLEY>So I just watched the trailer of Mickey 17.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>And it looks different than a lot of the other movies that we've seen lately.
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<BOBBY>How so?
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<ASHLEY>It seems like a story that I don't know yet.
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<ASHLEY>Like a lot of the ones that we've watched are kind of predictable, like Fountain of Youth, or any of, I mean, I guess The Electric State was different.
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<ASHLEY>So I could say that.
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<BOBBY>Sure.
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<ASHLEY>But this one reminds me of something from Black Mirror.
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<ASHLEY>At the beginning of the trailer, the main character is going to work in space or something, and it shows that he signed up to be something called an expendable, where I assume he is being used to test deadly diseases or go on really dangerous missions.
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<ASHLEY>It seems like once his body is out of commission, they just print another one and continue moving forward with whatever plans they have.
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<ASHLEY>It shows the leader basically saying that they will exterminate all the multiples.
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<ASHLEY>So maybe he's going to have to kill all of his multiples.
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<ASHLEY>And then how do we know if they're even the same?
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<ASHLEY>I mean, how many multiples are there, like hundreds?
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<BOBBY>It's a good question.
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<BOBBY>I mean, I guess we have to watch the movie to find out.
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<ASHLEY>Exactly.
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<ASHLEY>Also, I really liked the way they displayed any text on the screen in the trailer.
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<ASHLEY>They used a black and white, I don't know what they're called, but like a flip letterboard that you'd see at like a train station or an airport or something like that.
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<ASHLEY>So I really like the way that looked.
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<ASHLEY>It was very cool to me.
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<ASHLEY>I liked it.
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<ASHLEY>Will you be able to tell me the synopsis?
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<BOBBY>Absolutely.
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<ASHLEY>Is it close?
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<ASHLEY>Am I close?
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<ASHLEY>Well, we'll hear.
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<ASHLEY>We'll hear.
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<BOBBY>You ready?
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<BOBBY>A disposable employee is sent on a human expedition to colonize the ice world, Niflheim.
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<BOBBY>After one iteration dies, a new body is regenerated with most of his memories intact.
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<BOBBY>That's the end of synopsis.
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<ASHLEY>Wow.
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<ASHLEY>That was very succinct.
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<ASHLEY>And I think I like the synopsis better than the trailer.
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<BOBBY>I mean, sometimes they can be very concise with the information that they give you.
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<BOBBY>Some of the trailers that we've seen, almost like what we talked about before, you might see the whole movie beforehand.
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<BOBBY>So it was kind of nice that you came up with something.
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<BOBBY>The synopsis said something.
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<BOBBY>They're kind of on the same path, but we have no idea what's going to happen throughout this movie.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>Like even watching the trailer, what I saw at the beginning before he like met his multiple, it had really epic music.
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<ASHLEY>And I was like, oh man, I'm so invested in this.
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<ASHLEY>This is so interesting.
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<ASHLEY>And then when he had the multiple and it changed to, and I do what I want.
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<ASHLEY>I don't know what song that is.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>But I don't know, like a 80s, 90s rock.
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<BOBBY>Sure.
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<ASHLEY>Anyway, it changed the whole vibe.
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<ASHLEY>And then by the end of the trailer, I'm like, oh, I don't know if I want to watch it anymore.
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<ASHLEY>The beginning really hooked me.
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<ASHLEY>But the end, I don't know, dissuaded me.
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<BOBBY>Would you say that the reason why you get hooked or dissuaded is based upon the music in the trailer rather than the trailer itself?
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<BOBBY>Just an interesting thing that I've been listening to on our last couple of podcasts.
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<ASHLEY>That is incredibly, like, insightful.
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<BOBBY>Well, it's just, I mean, I've been doing this for a little while, and so I try to make sure that I pay attention to what you're saying.
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<ASHLEY>I never thought about that.
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<ASHLEY>But you're right.
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<ASHLEY>Maybe it is the music.
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<BOBBY>Because I remember number one above every single trailer that we've ever seen is The Fall Guy.
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<BOBBY>Because you loved all of the music.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>And then I talked about the music in Hellboy, I think.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>And I probably talked about the music in other things.
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<ASHLEY>I guess maybe that's why.
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<ASHLEY>That's why I don't listen to music.
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<ASHLEY>Because it's like makes me too emotional.
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<ASHLEY>Whether it's good or bad, I'm like, I think music just like really makes my whole being feel like emotional.
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<BOBBY>It touches you on a different level.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>That's pretty cool.
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<ASHLEY>And maybe that's why I don't listen to it all that often.
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<ASHLEY>You know.
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<BOBBY>Well, I mean, there's some ones that are out there that I think a lot of people wouldn't be huge fans of.
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<BOBBY>But there is some new music that comes out every now and again.
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<BOBBY>That's OK.
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<BOBBY>But I think every generation believes that the music that they were growing up with was the best.
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<ASHLEY>I agree.
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<BOBBY>I think that's just pretty easy.
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<BOBBY>Like if we talk to, you know, our our parents or our grandparents, I'm sure they're going to say, oh, well, the 60s and 70s, that's when music really meant something.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>Because it brings back the memories they have.
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<ASHLEY>And it's kind of like what you're most familiar with.
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<BOBBY>Exactly.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Insightful.
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<BOBBY>Like I said, just a little observation.
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<BOBBY>I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
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<BOBBY>So you're ready to watch this movie?
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>I couldn't be more ready.
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<ASHLEY>I mean, I could be more ready.
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<BOBBY>In what way?
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<ASHLEY>You know, I don't I don't know.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>Could I be more ready?
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<BOBBY>I mean, if you were wearing a spacesuit and getting ready to go somewhere.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, I'm already ready already.
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<BOBBY>Shout out to anybody who knows what that is.
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<ASHLEY>I don't.
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<ASHLEY>He just says it all the time.
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<ASHLEY>OK, now she does know.
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<BOBBY>She does know what it is.
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<ASHLEY>I can't remember what it's from.
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<BOBBY>It's already ready already.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, it's like the little it's like the TV dinners.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, the commercial.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>It's already ready already.
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<BOBBY>Exactly.
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<BOBBY>So there you go.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>Well, let's turn this on.
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<ASHLEY>And we'll see you after the show.
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<ASHLEY>And we're back.
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<ASHLEY>From the feature film we just watched, which was?
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<BOBBY>Mickey 17.
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<ASHLEY>Yes, I was really, I was using my eyes to see if you would say it.
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<BOBBY>Oh, I'm right on the same path as you.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, perfect.
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<BOBBY>Of course.
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<ASHLEY>So I gave story a 5.0.
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<BOBBY>Whoa, okay.
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<BOBBY>This is interesting, I can't wait to hear this.
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<ASHLEY>I thought the story was unique.
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<ASHLEY>I thought it was timely.
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<ASHLEY>It explores top, sorry, I'm reading my notes.
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<ASHLEY>It explores, I can't paraphrase my own writing.
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<ASHLEY>It's difficult.
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<BOBBY>Well, you don't have to play, you can't plagiarize your own writing.
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<ASHLEY>No, paraphrase.
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<BOBBY>And you can't, well, I mean, that's just you just writing down stuff that you want to say about now.
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<ASHLEY>But I don't write things in like the way I would say it.
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<BOBBY>Right, you look at it as like a marker for what you're going to say.
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<BOBBY>Like, I don't write out sentences of like, oh, yeah, Bobby, you definitely did this.
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<ASHLEY>Like, no, mine's bullet points too.
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<BOBBY>Here's one for me.
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<BOBBY>Creeper samples and creating an antidote for the virus in the air like Corona.
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<ASHLEY>You are killing me.
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<ASHLEY>I can't.
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<ASHLEY>I can't.
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<ASHLEY>This is so funny.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<BOBBY>So for story, so you're going first tonight, right?
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<ASHLEY>Yes, I gave story of 5.0.
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<ASHLEY>What?
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<ASHLEY>I thought it was unique.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>Timely.
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<ASHLEY>I think it.
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<BOBBY>Timely.
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<BOBBY>What does that mean?
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<ASHLEY>I think it explored topics that we're talking about today.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>Like the differentiation.
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<ASHLEY>Is that the word?
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<BOBBY>I think so.
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<ASHLEY>Of wealth.
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<ASHLEY>No, the distribu-
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<BOBBY>Oh, the disparity and the inequality and distribution of wealth.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>So it highlighted that.
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<ASHLEY>It showed the dehumanization of employees because it reminded me of like animals, like animal testing, like they're testing him.
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<BOBBY>Oh, you're talking about the character.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, but not testing him, but like using him for tests.
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<BOBBY>The only thing that I would say about that is that in most animal testing that obviously happens here, the animals don't sign up for it.
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<BOBBY>At least he signed up for it.
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<ASHLEY>That's true.
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<ASHLEY>That's true.
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<ASHLEY>I think it showed the disregard for human life.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>Because they even created jobs like this.
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<ASHLEY>And I don't even know if he was paid.
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<ASHLEY>Did they just go there for their own will?
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<BOBBY>He was paid.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, they were?
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>What would he spend his money on?
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<ASHLEY>There wasn't anything to buy.
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<ASHLEY>Well, maybe when they colonized.
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<BOBBY>Well, OK, we have to be very careful with this movie because there's a lot of things that could easily spoil it.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<BOBBY>Almost kind of like what happens in our society now.
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<BOBBY>He didn't necessarily have a great skill set.
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<BOBBY>And he actually says that throughout the movie.
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<BOBBY>So that's the reason why he signed up for the job that he signed up for was because he had no skills.
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<ASHLEY>Ah, OK.
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<ASHLEY>So it highlighted the prioritization of greed and power.
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<ASHLEY>And the desire to take over another land that isn't theirs.
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<ASHLEY>And thinking that they're entitled to it.
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<ASHLEY>And I mean, I'm not spoiling anything because you don't know if they got the land, if they didn't get the land.
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<ASHLEY>What happens?
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<ASHLEY>Who knows?
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<ASHLEY>I'm not telling you that.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<BOBBY>And I mean, I think you can kind of glean a little bit of that stuff off of the trailer, too, which was, you know, there's something that's gone on.
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<BOBBY>A lot of people are signing up almost like our Mars project now that Elon Musk is trying to pull off with SpaceX.
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<BOBBY>That's what it kind of reminded me of.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>And that's it for story.
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<BOBBY>Oh, awesome.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<BOBBY>Well, I gave story of 4.5.
00:17:41.262 --> 00:17:48.562
<BOBBY>For me, one of the things I liked was I thought it was almost like a cosmic groundhog day.
00:17:48.562 --> 00:18:05.602
<BOBBY>You know, you have this incredible story where somebody is not specifically reliving the same day over and over and over again, but they're reliving the same environment and job over and over and over again, even if it's a new job.
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<BOBBY>And it just kind of reminded me of myself, you know, in a lot of ways.
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<BOBBY>I can go into my job.
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<BOBBY>I've been working there for 18 years.
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<BOBBY>I can see everything that I've always seen.
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<BOBBY>But today might be a day for something that's different.
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<BOBBY>And that just added to his learning core.
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<BOBBY>And I like that portion of it.
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<ASHLEY>Awesome.
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<BOBBY>So I really like that.
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<BOBBY>I thought that they did a really good job of, to your point, portraying the timeliness of geopolitical things that are happening across our globe.
00:18:43.642 --> 00:18:52.002
<BOBBY>And there was a lot of poignant social commentary, mixed in with a little bit of humor.
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<BOBBY>And then also, maybe peppered in there a couple of different solutions for some of the problems that we're going through right now as well.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Just in general.
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<BOBBY>So that's the reason why I gave it a 4.5.
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<ASHLEY>Nice.
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<ASHLEY>For acting, I gave it a 4.8.
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<BOBBY>Whoa.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>Now, I think Robert Pattinson really did a great job differentiating his accents and body language and facial expressions between the two Mickeys.
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<ASHLEY>We have to say it because you see in the trailer.
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<BOBBY>Oh, you do?
00:19:32.042 --> 00:19:32.282
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>OK, good.
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<BOBBY>As long as you see it in the trailer, aces.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
00:19:35.822 --> 00:19:36.402
<BOBBY>OK.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>He did a great job, like fantastic, because I I knew without even looking because without even thinking twice about it, I knew exactly which one was talking.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>So I really liked the.
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<ASHLEY>Differences that he portrayed between the two Mickeys.
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<ASHLEY>I think the shifts were well defined and the characters like Mark Ruffalo and Toni Collette had a lot of they felt like they had a lot of emotion behind the character.
00:20:07.902 --> 00:20:14.342
<ASHLEY>And the actors really knew where they were sourcing that inspiration from.
00:20:14.342 --> 00:20:14.802
<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>And it felt like even though we don't know their backstories, like, I don't think we ever learned anything about their backstories, do we?
00:20:22.622 --> 00:20:29.962
<BOBBY>No, we I don't think we know really about how anybody kind of truly grew up or how they got there.
00:20:29.962 --> 00:20:32.542
<BOBBY>We saw them signing up and then they were on the ship.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>So I think even though we never saw backstories, it felt like the actors made up their own backstory, even in like subtle glances or the way they're speaking.
00:20:45.182 --> 00:20:48.482
<ASHLEY>They had the emotion behind it.
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<BOBBY>OK.
00:20:48.962 --> 00:20:52.742
<ASHLEY>And then I thought some of the smaller characters were really good, like Dorothy.
00:20:52.742 --> 00:20:54.962
<ASHLEY>She was the one that worked at the printer.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>Her facial expressions were great.
00:20:57.182 --> 00:20:58.642
<ASHLEY>Her tone was great.
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<ASHLEY>I mean, she did a fantastic job.
00:21:00.882 --> 00:21:04.482
<ASHLEY>I also really liked Nasha's monologue.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Nasha's monologue was incredible.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, should I say that for writing?
00:21:07.542 --> 00:21:08.502
<ASHLEY>Is that for writing?
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<BOBBY>Well, I don't know.
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<BOBBY>I mean, she acted it out very well.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>So that's why I gave it a 4.8.
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<BOBBY>Awesome.
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<BOBBY>I think we're going to hit on a couple of the same points, but I gave it a different score because there was something in there that I wasn't a huge fan of.
00:21:23.542 --> 00:21:24.242
<ASHLEY>Oh, OK.
00:21:24.242 --> 00:21:25.822
<BOBBY>So I gave it a 4.0.
00:21:26.282 --> 00:21:27.722
<BOBBY>I gave acting a 4.0.
00:21:27.722 --> 00:21:37.602
<BOBBY>And the reason why was because of Robert Pattinson's initial character and accent.
00:21:37.602 --> 00:21:49.562
<BOBBY>I it was so distracting, really, from the movie that I was like, I I didn't know if we were going to finish it, if it was going to be that entire way throughout the rest of the movie.
00:21:49.562 --> 00:21:55.082
<BOBBY>It was really for me, at least, because it just it didn't make any sense.
00:21:55.322 --> 00:21:55.582
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:21:55.582 --> 00:22:03.602
<BOBBY>Like everyone that was around him and everything that was going on and everybody else who was speaking was doing an incredible job.
00:22:03.602 --> 00:22:08.762
<BOBBY>And yet for him, it was just like I want it was like nails on a chalkboard to me.
00:22:08.762 --> 00:22:15.622
<BOBBY>And so I understand where you're coming from, especially with the like duality or something.
00:22:15.622 --> 00:22:18.602
<BOBBY>The multiples or the duality of those two people.
00:22:18.602 --> 00:22:22.122
<BOBBY>Because I wrote in here that 18 was better than 17.
00:22:23.702 --> 00:22:23.842
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:22:23.842 --> 00:22:26.862
<ASHLEY>And see, like throughout the whole movie, I liked 17 better than 18.
00:22:26.862 --> 00:22:27.722
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:22:27.722 --> 00:22:32.722
<BOBBY>But if you're saying the acting, for me, 18 was better than 17.
00:22:32.722 --> 00:22:35.042
<ASHLEY>That's so interesting.
00:22:35.042 --> 00:22:36.262
<ASHLEY>You're right.
00:22:36.262 --> 00:22:38.302
<ASHLEY>That is so interesting.
00:22:38.302 --> 00:22:38.682
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:22:38.682 --> 00:22:45.342
<ASHLEY>Just because that maybe it's because the the 17 just didn't feel natural for him as an actor.
00:22:45.342 --> 00:22:48.482
<ASHLEY>And so maybe it was like he was trying overly.
00:22:48.942 --> 00:22:50.202
<BOBBY>So it could be.
00:22:50.202 --> 00:22:55.982
<BOBBY>But that and the accents and everything else, that kind of put me down.
00:22:55.982 --> 00:22:58.042
<BOBBY>And I was going to give it a 3.5.
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<ASHLEY>Wow.
00:22:59.062 --> 00:23:05.362
<BOBBY>But I will have to say that Mark Ruffalo and the character that he embodies.
00:23:06.602 --> 00:23:11.122
<BOBBY>And if you choose to watch this movie, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
00:23:11.122 --> 00:23:12.942
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:23:12.942 --> 00:23:20.762
<BOBBY>Even if you were a fan or not a fan, the character that he is embodying and playing is incredible.
00:23:20.762 --> 00:23:21.142
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:23:21.142 --> 00:23:27.022
<BOBBY>It just, he hits all of that so incredibly well.
00:23:27.282 --> 00:23:35.902
<BOBBY>Without changing the, and I think the reason why I enjoyed that portion of it so much was because he didn't have to change his physical appearance.
00:23:35.902 --> 00:23:38.782
<BOBBY>He didn't have to change anything really about himself.
00:23:38.782 --> 00:23:40.502
<BOBBY>He just knew how to act.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:23:40.882 --> 00:23:42.402
<BOBBY>That specific character.
00:23:42.402 --> 00:23:44.322
<BOBBY>And I'm like, that is incredible.
00:23:44.582 --> 00:23:44.762
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:23:44.762 --> 00:23:46.342
<BOBBY>That is awesome.
00:23:46.342 --> 00:23:52.222
<ASHLEY>It was so perfectly planned, but also natural.
00:23:52.242 --> 00:23:53.342
<BOBBY>Right.
00:23:53.342 --> 00:23:55.902
<ASHLEY>I mean, just like he and Toni Collette.
00:23:55.902 --> 00:24:03.602
<ASHLEY>Like both of them had so much emotion that was so tied to one another, but also so distant at the exact same time.
00:24:03.622 --> 00:24:04.042
<BOBBY>Right.
00:24:04.042 --> 00:24:09.742
<ASHLEY>You could feel the tenseness in their relationship too.
00:24:09.742 --> 00:24:12.062
<ASHLEY>So, I mean, they did a fantastic job.
00:24:12.402 --> 00:24:13.362
<BOBBY>No, I agree.
00:24:13.562 --> 00:24:22.442
<BOBBY>The only thing, like I said, just the accent and the first, probably I would say the first third of the movie.
00:24:22.442 --> 00:24:26.082
<BOBBY>It was just very, very annoying to me specifically.
00:24:26.082 --> 00:24:28.622
<BOBBY>And I'm not, I mean, other people might love it.
00:24:28.622 --> 00:24:30.042
<ASHLEY>I didn't know you felt that way.
00:24:30.042 --> 00:24:31.062
<ASHLEY>I had no idea.
00:24:31.062 --> 00:24:31.482
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:24:31.482 --> 00:24:34.902
<BOBBY>Well, I mean, this is the reason why I write things down and I don't tell you.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, I'm so sorry.
00:24:36.922 --> 00:24:37.342
<BOBBY>Why?
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<BOBBY>It got way better at the end.
00:24:39.002 --> 00:24:39.322
<ASHLEY>Oh, yeah.
00:24:39.322 --> 00:24:41.822
<BOBBY>I'm glad that I kept going just like ghosts.
00:24:41.822 --> 00:24:44.222
<BOBBY>I didn't like the first four episodes of that.
00:24:44.222 --> 00:24:47.262
<BOBBY>And then now I'm hooked and I can't wait to see another one.
00:24:47.262 --> 00:24:48.962
<ASHLEY>They really embody their characters.
00:24:48.982 --> 00:24:50.062
<ASHLEY>It's true.
00:24:50.062 --> 00:24:50.822
<BOBBY>Because they're ghosts.
00:24:50.822 --> 00:24:53.762
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:24:53.762 --> 00:24:55.362
<ASHLEY>OK.
00:24:55.362 --> 00:24:58.822
<ASHLEY>For writing, I gave it a 4.9.
00:25:00.282 --> 00:25:01.162
<BOBBY>Awesome.
00:25:01.162 --> 00:25:01.942
<BOBBY>OK.
00:25:01.942 --> 00:25:07.742
<ASHLEY>I like the variation of personalities between the characters and classes.
00:25:08.602 --> 00:25:15.682
<ASHLEY>What I noticed that every line seemed to portray each character's motivations in the best way.
00:25:15.682 --> 00:25:22.842
<ASHLEY>Like the rich people had a more had a different way of speaking than what the employees.
00:25:22.842 --> 00:25:23.122
<BOBBY>OK.
00:25:23.122 --> 00:25:30.322
<ASHLEY>Like they just all spoke very differently and had like the verbiage they used was different.
00:25:30.322 --> 00:25:30.802
<BOBBY>OK.
00:25:30.802 --> 00:25:32.062
<ASHLEY>So I like that.
00:25:32.082 --> 00:25:32.562
<BOBBY>Right.
00:25:32.562 --> 00:25:34.582
<ASHLEY>And I really liked.
00:25:34.582 --> 00:25:37.382
<ASHLEY>Nasha's monologue was that at the end?
00:25:37.922 --> 00:25:40.362
<BOBBY>It was at the it was pretty close to the end.
00:25:40.362 --> 00:25:41.702
<BOBBY>And I wrote the same thing.
00:25:41.702 --> 00:25:47.142
<BOBBY>So we're on the same exact page with that, because I thought that was incredibly acted.
00:25:47.142 --> 00:25:59.402
<BOBBY>And the way that they wrote that, it reminds me, if you guys have ever seen Black Mirror, it reminds me of the Black Mirror episode where the guy has to ride the bike to get coins so he could see his girlfriend.
00:25:59.482 --> 00:26:00.782
<ASHLEY>Oh my God.
00:26:00.782 --> 00:26:09.662
<BOBBY>And then he goes off on this gigantic tangent and basically soliloquy at the very end, because it's almost like American Idol.
00:26:09.662 --> 00:26:15.002
<BOBBY>And that is one of the greatest moments of acting I've ever seen.
00:26:15.002 --> 00:26:17.922
<BOBBY>And I thought that she did an incredible job as well.
00:26:17.922 --> 00:26:23.642
<BOBBY>And I thought whoever wrote that, because I highly doubt she made that up in the moment.
00:26:23.642 --> 00:26:24.742
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:26:24.742 --> 00:26:27.222
<BOBBY>But whoever wrote that, fantastic.
00:26:27.222 --> 00:26:28.722
<BOBBY>Incredible, incredible writing.
00:26:28.722 --> 00:26:29.822
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:26:29.822 --> 00:26:31.042
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:26:31.042 --> 00:26:34.042
<ASHLEY>Okay, I have one last quote that I want to mention.
00:26:34.042 --> 00:26:39.642
<ASHLEY>Mark Ruffalo's character said, the Lord is truly blessing you, Mickey.
00:26:40.982 --> 00:26:44.442
<ASHLEY>Like you should be so grateful for this.
00:26:44.442 --> 00:26:47.762
<ASHLEY>And it just reminded me of like just a power dynamics.
00:26:47.822 --> 00:26:48.282
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:26:48.282 --> 00:26:57.022
<ASHLEY>Like, oh, I'm just going to spin this so it works well for me and makes him feel grateful to be an expendable.
00:26:57.022 --> 00:27:10.542
<ASHLEY>Like someone who is trying to manipulate the person who has a crappy job or someone who's in a bad position to make them feel empowered, right?
00:27:10.542 --> 00:27:16.362
<ASHLEY>Like the person talking to them actually respects them and respects what they're doing, right?
00:27:16.682 --> 00:27:26.142
<ASHLEY>But in all reality, you know that the person in the higher socio-economic class is a thousand percent looking down on them.
00:27:26.142 --> 00:27:26.962
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:27:26.962 --> 00:27:39.202
<ASHLEY>They don't think that anyone in that position should be respected, but they're trying to manipulate him into feeling grateful instead of taking advantage of by them.
00:27:39.262 --> 00:27:39.742
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:27:39.742 --> 00:27:40.462
<ASHLEY>Anyway, I'm done.
00:27:40.462 --> 00:27:41.802
<ASHLEY>I'm done with writing.
00:27:41.802 --> 00:27:42.382
<BOBBY>Oh, no.
00:27:42.382 --> 00:27:47.422
<BOBBY>A lot of what you said were things that were kind of on my radar as well.
00:27:47.422 --> 00:27:50.242
<BOBBY>I gave writing dialogue at 4.5.
00:27:50.242 --> 00:27:58.702
<BOBBY>I probably should have in retrospect given it a little bit higher, but there's some stuff that was written in there that I was like, I'm not 100% sold on.
00:27:58.702 --> 00:28:00.062
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:28:00.062 --> 00:28:09.882
<BOBBY>The writing for Mark Ruffalo's character, I think, was probably some of the greatest stuff because I can't imagine that he improvd all of that.
00:28:09.882 --> 00:28:10.722
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:28:10.722 --> 00:28:20.382
<BOBBY>I wrote down Nasha's soliloquy about how quote unquote garbage a president would be.
00:28:20.382 --> 00:28:28.662
<BOBBY>I think that whoever came up with the idea of calling something that is different from you a creeper.
00:28:28.662 --> 00:28:29.602
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:28:29.602 --> 00:28:35.722
<BOBBY>I was like, oh, they really have their fingers on the heartbeat of what's going on in the world.
00:28:35.722 --> 00:28:37.162
<BOBBY>In the world.
00:28:37.162 --> 00:28:42.862
<BOBBY>Because if you don't know what to call something, the easiest thing to do is call it something scary.
00:28:42.862 --> 00:28:44.162
<ASHLEY>Or call it something negative.
00:28:44.162 --> 00:28:44.462
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:28:44.462 --> 00:28:44.782
<BOBBY>Right.
00:28:44.782 --> 00:28:45.702
<ASHLEY>Oh, no, you're right.
00:28:45.702 --> 00:28:46.502
<ASHLEY>Scary.
00:28:46.622 --> 00:28:49.902
<ASHLEY>Because you've got to instill fear in your audience.
00:28:49.902 --> 00:28:53.062
<BOBBY>There's just everybody tries to put things in a box.
00:28:54.022 --> 00:28:57.422
<BOBBY>And really what the world is, is it's just shades of gray.
00:28:57.422 --> 00:28:57.742
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:28:57.742 --> 00:29:07.062
<BOBBY>Like, there was a lot of very interesting things that they put in that if you were paying attention, like this is one thing.
00:29:07.062 --> 00:29:08.182
<BOBBY>I'll say it.
00:29:08.182 --> 00:29:09.422
<BOBBY>It won't make sense right now.
00:29:09.422 --> 00:29:11.882
<BOBBY>But if you watch the movie, it will make sense.
00:29:11.882 --> 00:29:14.062
<BOBBY>From Dove with Love.
00:29:14.062 --> 00:29:18.162
<BOBBY>But it is literally a rigged system.
00:29:18.162 --> 00:29:20.482
<BOBBY>But you won't know what that is.
00:29:20.482 --> 00:29:22.182
<BOBBY>What I just said, unless you watch the movie.
00:29:22.762 --> 00:29:27.742
<BOBBY>But I thought, wow, what incredible writing to throw in to the story.
00:29:27.742 --> 00:29:30.342
<BOBBY>Because it literally shows everything.
00:29:30.362 --> 00:29:34.822
<BOBBY>Once again, it goes back to the timeliness of things.
00:29:34.822 --> 00:29:43.202
<BOBBY>And so with the timeliness of everything that's going on, it's like, oh, well, the game is rigged against you.
00:29:43.202 --> 00:29:48.022
<BOBBY>And so I thought, oh, wow, how incredibly interesting that they threw that in there.
00:29:48.622 --> 00:29:55.062
<BOBBY>So I just really enjoyed them having the opportunity to throw in little tiny Easter eggs.
00:29:55.062 --> 00:29:58.182
<BOBBY>That if you're paying attention, because you didn't hear that.
00:29:58.182 --> 00:30:06.142
<BOBBY>And then when I said it and then that scene happened, you're like, oh, my God, like, the guy is really that's what's going on.
00:30:06.142 --> 00:30:10.022
<BOBBY>And I was like, yeah, I heard it in the ship's speakers.
00:30:10.022 --> 00:30:13.382
<BOBBY>And for someone to be able to write that is really cool.
00:30:13.822 --> 00:30:18.782
<ASHLEY>The crown, you know, like the littlest details and that's going right into Direction.
00:30:18.782 --> 00:30:19.482
<BOBBY>Oh yeah.
00:30:19.482 --> 00:30:23.282
<ASHLEY>So for Direction, I gave it a 4.9.
00:30:23.282 --> 00:30:24.002
<BOBBY>Nice.
00:30:24.002 --> 00:30:44.082
<ASHLEY>And I think everything that you saw from, I don't know, like the dirt in the corner to the main character's makeup or costumes or the set design or the picture on the wall or the dust in the corner, everything was very meticulously placed.
00:30:44.082 --> 00:30:44.842
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:30:44.842 --> 00:30:54.742
<ASHLEY>And I think the Direction with that felt so cohesive because they got the right actors in everything.
00:30:54.742 --> 00:30:54.882
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:30:54.882 --> 00:31:01.902
<ASHLEY>And it's like the visuals and the acting and everything just like blended together really, really seamlessly.
00:31:01.902 --> 00:31:06.082
<ASHLEY>And there were some metaphors in there that.
00:31:06.082 --> 00:31:11.162
<ASHLEY>Like visual metaphors, and I forgot about this, but when you just said from Dove with Love.
00:31:11.162 --> 00:31:12.242
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:31:12.242 --> 00:31:21.742
<ASHLEY>I realized the dove that we saw in like if there's a guy in a suit wearing a dove costume, but it wasn't a dove costume, it was a pigeon costume.
00:31:21.742 --> 00:31:31.042
<ASHLEY>So he also told everyone that that he like convinced everyone that that was really a dove, but it was a pigeon.
00:31:31.042 --> 00:31:33.282
<ASHLEY>Oh, isn't that crazy?
00:31:33.282 --> 00:31:34.622
<ASHLEY>I mean, maybe maybe I'm wrong.
00:31:34.622 --> 00:31:36.762
<ASHLEY>Maybe it is a dove, but it looked like a pigeon to me.
00:31:36.982 --> 00:31:40.882
<BOBBY>Well, I mean, either way, it was just a what a ridiculous thing to do.
00:31:40.882 --> 00:31:42.422
<BOBBY>I know it was to keep up morale.
00:31:42.422 --> 00:31:48.242
<BOBBY>It's almost like the sea captains back in the day, they had to keep up morale and do crazy things.
00:31:48.242 --> 00:31:48.782
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:31:48.782 --> 00:31:51.882
<ASHLEY>So go eat dinner with the guests or whatever.
00:31:51.882 --> 00:31:53.602
<BOBBY>Yeah, exactly.
00:31:53.602 --> 00:31:58.102
<BOBBY>So yeah, just another great plot point.
00:31:58.102 --> 00:32:02.122
<ASHLEY>Oh, oh, I noticed that sauce was very important.
00:32:02.122 --> 00:32:04.442
<ASHLEY>So the metaphor when she what?
00:32:05.482 --> 00:32:07.462
<BOBBY>No, I was just thinking about it.
00:32:07.462 --> 00:32:18.582
<ASHLEY>Oh, the metaphor between rich and poor, because the rich woman or the, I don't know, the head lady, Toni Collette, was talking about sauce a lot.
00:32:18.582 --> 00:32:24.382
<ASHLEY>And I remember when all of the employees ate at the cafeteria, everything was dry.
00:32:25.842 --> 00:32:29.262
<ASHLEY>So that was a visual metaphor, too, like sauces for rich people.
00:32:30.682 --> 00:32:44.622
<BOBBY>Oh, I thought it was that she just wanted everyone to like her food, and they were just making like little tiny rations of stuff, because she offered the sauce to that one random guy.
00:32:44.622 --> 00:32:46.122
<BOBBY>She's like, why don't you taste this?
00:32:46.122 --> 00:32:47.502
<BOBBY>And he's like, do I have to?
00:32:47.502 --> 00:32:48.882
<BOBBY>It's like, yes.
00:32:48.882 --> 00:32:50.862
<ASHLEY>Oh, yeah, that was gross.
00:32:50.862 --> 00:32:53.102
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:32:53.102 --> 00:32:54.562
<ASHLEY>But I think they did a great job.
00:32:54.562 --> 00:32:57.902
<ASHLEY>I think Bong Joon-ho.
00:32:57.902 --> 00:32:58.122
<BOBBY>Yes.
00:32:58.342 --> 00:32:59.002
<ASHLEY>Okay.
00:32:59.002 --> 00:33:02.542
<ASHLEY>Bong Joon-ho did a great job with Direction.
00:33:02.542 --> 00:33:04.162
<ASHLEY>And I have no notes.
00:33:04.162 --> 00:33:05.922
<ASHLEY>I mean, the notes of good things.
00:33:05.922 --> 00:33:06.622
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:33:06.622 --> 00:33:09.242
<ASHLEY>No notes of anything I would change.
00:33:09.242 --> 00:33:11.482
<ASHLEY>I think it was like flawless.
00:33:11.622 --> 00:33:12.522
<ASHLEY>From beginning to end.
00:33:12.522 --> 00:33:14.462
<ASHLEY>The C, anyway, go on.
00:33:14.462 --> 00:33:16.642
<BOBBY>No, I completely agree with you.
00:33:16.642 --> 00:33:24.542
<BOBBY>I, there are some things kind of like the, and I don't know if it's, if I should have attributed it more to acting or not.
00:33:24.542 --> 00:33:27.342
<BOBBY>I did not like, it was really distracting for me.
00:33:27.842 --> 00:33:30.642
<BOBBY>The first part with Robert Pattinson.
00:33:30.642 --> 00:33:33.722
<BOBBY>So I gave directing a 4.5.
00:33:33.722 --> 00:33:41.702
<BOBBY>The only reason why I say that is because I think if you watch it, you're like, this is really gonna turn some people off.
00:33:41.702 --> 00:33:46.122
<BOBBY>And that's the reason why it's like, you can switch things up.
00:33:46.122 --> 00:33:51.542
<BOBBY>You know, someone's gonna give you a script and it's somebody else's idea and you have to bring that idea to life.
00:33:51.542 --> 00:33:59.982
<BOBBY>But when you're watching something back, if you know it's going to annoy people, maybe try to switch it up.
00:33:59.982 --> 00:34:04.482
<ASHLEY>Yeah, and see, like, that's how we're so different because it didn't annoy me.
00:34:04.482 --> 00:34:06.342
<ASHLEY>I didn't even notice.
00:34:06.342 --> 00:34:11.282
<BOBBY>That's like I said, that it could just be a personal preference.
00:34:11.282 --> 00:34:13.302
<BOBBY>It was just something that was distracting to me.
00:34:13.302 --> 00:34:14.642
<ASHLEY>That's so interesting.
00:34:14.642 --> 00:34:27.842
<BOBBY>But what I will say is the execution of the plot, the story, the visuals that were there, and we'll get into visuals next because I'm not a CGI guy.
00:34:27.842 --> 00:34:29.842
<BOBBY>So we'll get into that.
00:34:29.842 --> 00:34:39.142
<BOBBY>But I thought that they did an incredible job directing what was given to him and producing something that I really, really enjoyed.
00:34:39.142 --> 00:34:42.402
<BOBBY>I didn't think I was going to like this movie as much as I did.
00:34:42.402 --> 00:34:43.482
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:34:43.482 --> 00:34:56.082
<BOBBY>And so I think it's very difficult sometimes to take today's times and make it into a story and not make people upset or frustrated or scared or whatever else.
00:34:56.082 --> 00:34:56.262
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:34:56.262 --> 00:35:06.862
<ASHLEY>And the way they used all of the metaphors, they did a very like subtly showcasing stuff, but it wasn't obvious.
00:35:06.862 --> 00:35:07.862
<ASHLEY>I mean, for us, it was.
00:35:07.862 --> 00:35:11.722
<ASHLEY>But we just pay attention to a lot of things.
00:35:11.722 --> 00:35:13.402
<BOBBY>You're right.
00:35:13.402 --> 00:35:13.842
<BOBBY>OK.
00:35:13.842 --> 00:35:15.982
<BOBBY>Well, on to visuals.
00:35:17.162 --> 00:35:20.322
<ASHLEY>For visuals, I gave it a 4.9.
00:35:20.322 --> 00:35:21.042
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:35:21.042 --> 00:35:21.702
<BOBBY>OK.
00:35:21.702 --> 00:35:22.502
<ASHLEY>I know.
00:35:22.502 --> 00:35:29.942
<ASHLEY>I said the way they shot Robert Pattinson's scenes, because he's obviously one actor playing two characters.
00:35:29.942 --> 00:35:32.062
<ASHLEY>They did a fantastic job.
00:35:32.062 --> 00:35:40.122
<ASHLEY>I mean, we've all seen those movies where one actor plays two parts and you see them like profiles staring at each other.
00:35:40.562 --> 00:35:42.902
<ASHLEY>Oh, that's the shot that we can get because it's easy.
00:35:42.902 --> 00:35:50.342
<ASHLEY>And then there's a line in the background or some crazy pattern in the background so you don't actually notice when they're like putting the people behind each other.
00:35:50.682 --> 00:36:01.902
<ASHLEY>This one, the way they filmed it, it was like, yeah, you saw behind the like one of the Mickey's heads, but it wasn't obvious.
00:36:01.902 --> 00:36:05.862
<ASHLEY>Like we didn't see the entire back of his head and we didn't need to.
00:36:06.062 --> 00:36:07.982
<ASHLEY>Everything was executed very well.
00:36:08.262 --> 00:36:11.542
<ASHLEY>It didn't feel like one actor was playing two parts.
00:36:11.542 --> 00:36:12.342
<BOBBY>That makes sense.
00:36:12.342 --> 00:36:12.582
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:36:12.582 --> 00:36:23.942
<ASHLEY>I think the visual juxtaposition between the leaders and employees had a stark difference because when we saw where the leaders were, everything was bright and vibrant.
00:36:23.942 --> 00:36:33.742
<ASHLEY>And then every time we saw the employees, everything was like dark and neutral and like grays and browns and you know, it was just a little bit more mundane.
00:36:33.742 --> 00:36:35.362
<ASHLEY>Yeah, like very muted.
00:36:36.222 --> 00:36:43.442
<ASHLEY>And then everything with the wealth and opulence, it was just like visually, you could easily tell who the different people were.
00:36:43.442 --> 00:36:43.662
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:36:43.662 --> 00:36:59.602
<ASHLEY>And I like that they connected all of those things, not only the scenery and the sets, but even the like filters they use in post to make it look more saturated and make it look more muted in those situations.
00:36:59.602 --> 00:37:01.222
<ASHLEY>So I really like that.
00:37:01.222 --> 00:37:03.662
<ASHLEY>And that's why I gave it a 4.9.
00:37:03.662 --> 00:37:04.182
<BOBBY>Very cool.
00:37:05.062 --> 00:37:07.522
<BOBBY>I gave visuals a 3.8.
00:37:07.522 --> 00:37:08.642
<ASHLEY>Okay.
00:37:08.642 --> 00:37:13.322
<BOBBY>You know why, if you've listened to this long enough, I'm not a huge fan of CGI.
00:37:13.322 --> 00:37:16.962
<BOBBY>A large, large portion of the movie is CGI.
00:37:16.962 --> 00:37:24.942
<BOBBY>Additionally, it's kind of distracting when you know someone isn't cold and then they do the CGI breath.
00:37:24.942 --> 00:37:28.682
<BOBBY>It just, for whatever reason, I don't know why they do that.
00:37:28.682 --> 00:37:36.262
<BOBBY>It just, just make it seem like it's cold and just leave it be, because it always looks weird.
00:37:36.262 --> 00:37:37.542
<BOBBY>They can never get the breath.
00:37:37.542 --> 00:37:38.242
<BOBBY>Really?
00:37:38.242 --> 00:37:42.922
<BOBBY>They can never get the breath and the mouth moving correct.
00:37:42.922 --> 00:37:51.682
<BOBBY>And it's very distracting, because you can clearly tell that the person is not breathing heavily steam out of their mouth or whatever it would be.
00:37:51.682 --> 00:37:55.282
<ASHLEY>That is so interesting because I never, I've never like noticed that.
00:37:55.282 --> 00:38:02.382
<ASHLEY>I always see it and I think it goes into my brain either, oh, that looks real or that doesn't, but I never, it never sticks with me.
00:38:02.382 --> 00:38:05.362
<ASHLEY>Like I completely forgot if I even thought it was real or not.
00:38:05.362 --> 00:38:09.802
<ASHLEY>It's like I think about it in the moment and I never even would have written that.
00:38:09.802 --> 00:38:10.902
<ASHLEY>That's so cool.
00:38:10.902 --> 00:38:13.642
<BOBBY>It just, I see things in a different way.
00:38:13.642 --> 00:38:15.022
<ASHLEY>Well, that's why we're doing this.
00:38:15.022 --> 00:38:15.502
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:38:15.502 --> 00:38:25.342
<BOBBY>And I think the big thing for me is going back to a long time ago, talking about practical effects, you didn't have to make believe as much of something.
00:38:25.462 --> 00:38:30.682
<BOBBY>So did they really need to be on a planet that was made out of ice?
00:38:30.682 --> 00:38:35.562
<BOBBY>I mean, if you didn't need to make that, couldn't they be on a planet that was made of sand?
00:38:35.562 --> 00:38:38.822
<BOBBY>I mean, does it really matter one way or the other?
00:38:38.822 --> 00:38:40.082
<BOBBY>You know what I mean?
00:38:40.082 --> 00:38:45.802
<ASHLEY>Probably because it was his pure white planet.
00:38:46.822 --> 00:38:47.342
<BOBBY>I see.
00:38:47.342 --> 00:38:54.482
<ASHLEY>So I think it was like the visual symbolism for the white snow, like the purity of it.
00:38:54.482 --> 00:38:56.382
<BOBBY>But then it started at the end.
00:38:56.382 --> 00:39:00.482
<BOBBY>Anyway, sorry, I got to get out of this because it doesn't matter.
00:39:00.482 --> 00:39:04.202
<BOBBY>So anyway, it was just very distracting to see the breath come out.
00:39:04.202 --> 00:39:05.722
<BOBBY>That's just a me thing.
00:39:05.722 --> 00:39:09.262
<BOBBY>And then there was a lot of CGI.
00:39:09.262 --> 00:39:19.762
<BOBBY>A pointed out a really good or she made a really great point that the Pattinson's side by side, it turned out really, really well.
00:39:20.542 --> 00:39:25.562
<BOBBY>There's been movies like, I don't know, The Parent Trap, The Parent Trap.
00:39:25.562 --> 00:39:27.722
<ASHLEY>It takes two with Mary Kate and Ashley.
00:39:27.722 --> 00:39:28.902
<BOBBY>Hey, there you go.
00:39:28.902 --> 00:39:30.342
<ASHLEY>Oh, no, they are two people.
00:39:30.342 --> 00:39:31.842
<ASHLEY>Oh my God.
00:39:33.522 --> 00:39:35.442
<BOBBY>You got to leave that one in there.
00:39:35.442 --> 00:39:37.722
<BOBBY>Legend, Legend's another one.
00:39:37.722 --> 00:39:43.042
<BOBBY>That's with Tom Hardy, where he plays his brother and then himself.
00:39:43.242 --> 00:39:47.822
<ASHLEY>Or any of the Lifetime movies where it's like the evil twin or the bad twin.
00:39:47.822 --> 00:39:48.262
<BOBBY>Right.
00:39:48.262 --> 00:39:48.942
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:39:48.942 --> 00:39:54.922
<BOBBY>So to your point, the CGI in that was perfect and the writing in it was really, really well done as well.
00:39:54.922 --> 00:39:56.622
<ASHLEY>Okay, we're back.
00:39:56.622 --> 00:40:04.562
<BOBBY>So yeah, there was just a lot of CGI in it for me and that's the reason why it bumps a couple points down.
00:40:04.562 --> 00:40:04.842
<ASHLEY>I see.
00:40:12.498 --> 00:40:16.378
<ASHLEY>For my preliminary score, I gave it a 4.9.
00:40:16.378 --> 00:40:17.998
<BOBBY>What?
00:40:17.998 --> 00:40:27.638
<ASHLEY>And after looking at that score and thinking twice and thinking three times, thinking thrice, I think I'll keep it at 4.9.
00:40:27.638 --> 00:40:28.178
<BOBBY>Whoa.
00:40:28.178 --> 00:40:31.858
<ASHLEY>I would give it a five, but I don't want to give that to a lot.
00:40:31.858 --> 00:40:33.778
<ASHLEY>And I don't know if I'd give it a five.
00:40:33.778 --> 00:40:34.398
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:40:34.398 --> 00:40:35.858
<ASHLEY>So I'm giving it a 4.9.
00:40:35.858 --> 00:40:36.778
<BOBBY>I mean.
00:40:36.778 --> 00:40:39.978
<ASHLEY>And I'd recommend to see it, but probably only once.
00:40:39.978 --> 00:40:41.558
<ASHLEY>Because once you know the story, you know the story.
00:40:42.058 --> 00:40:47.138
<ASHLEY>It's not like a comedy that you can watch over and over again, because it's like the story doesn't matter.
00:40:47.138 --> 00:40:49.198
<ASHLEY>It's like you watch it in the moment.
00:40:49.198 --> 00:40:52.218
<ASHLEY>This is like you watch the story as a whole and then it's done.
00:40:52.238 --> 00:40:53.198
<BOBBY>Right.
00:40:53.198 --> 00:40:57.058
<BOBBY>For me, I put it as a cosmic groundhog day.
00:40:57.058 --> 00:40:57.398
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:40:57.398 --> 00:41:03.198
<BOBBY>But if you can turn on a groundhog day, like laugh about certain things.
00:41:03.198 --> 00:41:04.958
<BOBBY>This, I don't know if you could do that.
00:41:04.958 --> 00:41:06.758
<ASHLEY>No, it's too much of like a drama.
00:41:06.758 --> 00:41:10.578
<ASHLEY>It's like a meaningful drama action.
00:41:11.418 --> 00:41:11.878
<ASHLEY>I don't know.
00:41:11.878 --> 00:41:13.498
<ASHLEY>I guess like sci-fi.
00:41:13.498 --> 00:41:14.238
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:41:14.238 --> 00:41:16.098
<ASHLEY>Like it's so it's more serious.
00:41:16.098 --> 00:41:18.078
<ASHLEY>And I feel like serious movies.
00:41:18.078 --> 00:41:18.338
<BOBBY>Right.
00:41:18.338 --> 00:41:20.798
<BOBBY>You're not going to go out and watch aliens every day.
00:41:20.798 --> 00:41:21.918
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:41:21.918 --> 00:41:24.638
<ASHLEY>I mean, you could watch aliens every day because it's funny.
00:41:24.638 --> 00:41:26.638
<ASHLEY>There's like some funny parts in it.
00:41:26.638 --> 00:41:27.438
<BOBBY>Aliens?
00:41:27.438 --> 00:41:28.738
<ASHLEY>Aliens.
00:41:28.738 --> 00:41:30.238
<BOBBY>Game over, man.
00:41:30.238 --> 00:41:31.458
<ASHLEY>Game over, man.
00:41:31.458 --> 00:41:32.878
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:41:32.878 --> 00:41:35.158
<ASHLEY>I guess I can count you out of everything, Hicks.
00:41:35.158 --> 00:41:35.858
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:41:35.858 --> 00:41:36.798
<BOBBY>Yeah, man.
00:41:37.378 --> 00:41:40.558
<BOBBY>Those things running around without you better believe it, man.
00:41:40.558 --> 00:41:41.918
<BOBBY>It's game over.
00:41:41.918 --> 00:41:43.618
<BOBBY>Game over, man.
00:41:45.618 --> 00:41:47.078
<ASHLEY>That was great.
00:41:47.078 --> 00:41:47.738
<BOBBY>Thank you.
00:41:47.738 --> 00:41:48.478
<ASHLEY>I loved it.
00:41:48.478 --> 00:41:49.278
<BOBBY>I love you.
00:41:49.278 --> 00:41:50.378
<ASHLEY>I love you.
00:41:50.378 --> 00:41:54.258
<ASHLEY>And so I recommend seeing this movie once.
00:41:56.778 --> 00:41:57.678
<BOBBY>Fair enough.
00:41:57.678 --> 00:42:02.698
<BOBBY>So my preliminary score is a four point two six.
00:42:02.698 --> 00:42:03.818
<ASHLEY>Oh, OK.
00:42:03.818 --> 00:42:18.858
<BOBBY>So after sitting here talking with you, thinking a little bit more about the movie and just kind of analyzing the whole thing, I think my final score for the movie is going to be a four point five six.
00:42:18.858 --> 00:42:19.318
<ASHLEY>Nice.
00:42:19.318 --> 00:42:20.498
<ASHLEY>OK.
00:42:20.498 --> 00:42:32.438
<BOBBY>I can't get to the four point six where it's like in the upper echelon of things, but I do think based upon a lot of what you said and then thinking back upon it, they did an incredible job.
00:42:32.438 --> 00:42:43.538
<BOBBY>I would 100 percent agree that people should see this once because I think it's just a really interesting concept and it's very entertaining.
00:42:43.538 --> 00:42:44.998
<BOBBY>It is a little bit long.
00:42:44.998 --> 00:42:46.958
<BOBBY>I mean, it's a little bit over two hours, I think.
00:42:46.958 --> 00:42:51.378
<ASHLEY>OK, I have to say, I'm glad that we didn't know or maybe you did.
00:42:51.378 --> 00:43:00.298
<ASHLEY>I'm glad that I didn't know how long it was going into it because when it ended, it like we paused it or whatever and it said two hours and what, seven?
00:43:00.298 --> 00:43:02.018
<BOBBY>It's two hours and 17 minutes.
00:43:02.018 --> 00:43:04.978
<ASHLEY>Two seventeen or it was, I don't know, what the credits at the end.
00:43:04.978 --> 00:43:12.298
<ASHLEY>Anyway, because it was over two hours, I was I it went by so much faster.
00:43:12.298 --> 00:43:14.578
<ASHLEY>I never I thought it was an hour and a half.
00:43:14.578 --> 00:43:15.138
<BOBBY>Right.
00:43:15.138 --> 00:43:20.538
<ASHLEY>So don't let the time scare you.
00:43:20.538 --> 00:43:23.898
<ASHLEY>And that's I mean, you're immediately in it when you first start watching.
00:43:23.938 --> 00:43:26.378
<ASHLEY>It doesn't take like 15 minutes or anything.
00:43:26.758 --> 00:43:28.038
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:43:28.038 --> 00:43:30.298
<BOBBY>Noah is completely right about that.
00:43:30.298 --> 00:43:34.958
<BOBBY>And that's the reason why I'm saying it could be a turn off.
00:43:35.338 --> 00:43:37.598
<BOBBY>But don't let it be because it's an incredible movie.
00:43:37.598 --> 00:43:38.198
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:43:38.198 --> 00:43:41.078
<BOBBY>And I think everybody should see it once.
00:43:41.078 --> 00:43:42.298
<ASHLEY>Agreed.
00:43:42.298 --> 00:43:46.978
<ASHLEY>Well, it's been fun on this episode of Microsodes.
00:43:46.978 --> 00:43:47.658
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:43:47.658 --> 00:43:48.998
<ASHLEY>Wouldn't you agree?
00:43:50.018 --> 00:43:53.598
<BOBBY>I agree twice on Sunday and once every other day that ends in Y.
00:43:54.418 --> 00:43:55.218
<ASHLEY>Perfect.
00:43:55.218 --> 00:43:57.378
<ASHLEY>Today's Sunday.
00:43:57.378 --> 00:43:59.858
<BOBBY>Nice.
00:43:59.858 --> 00:44:01.398
<BOBBY>So I agree twice.
00:44:01.398 --> 00:44:02.178
<ASHLEY>I.
00:44:02.178 --> 00:44:04.038
<BOBBY>Perfect.
00:44:04.038 --> 00:44:08.698
<ASHLEY>Well, we will catch you next time on Microsodes.