One Battle After Another (2025)
One Battle After Another (2025) Movie Review
One Battle After Another (2025) Movie Details:
Release Date: 09.26.25
Genre: Drama/Action/Dark Comedy
Length: 2:42
Rated: R
Main Cast: Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio Del Toro, Sean Penn, Chase Infiniti, Teyana Taylor
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One Battle After Another (2025) Spoiler-free
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<BOBBY>You're listening to a Spoiler-Free Episode of MICROSODES.
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<ASHLEY>Check back next week for the extended version with spoilers.
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<ASHLEY>After watching the movie, if you haven't seen this, his synopsis is what you'd want to follow.
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<ASHLEY>You would not want to follow mine.
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<ASHLEY>Well, it is not just an average story about a family that lives in America.
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<ASHLEY>There's a lot going on in this.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>All right, another Microsode.
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<BOBBY>I'm so excited for this one.
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<ASHLEY>Me too.
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<BOBBY>Do you want to tell everybody what we watched and what they're gonna be hearing about today?
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<ASHLEY>Yes, I hope you're having a great day so far.
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<BOBBY>Absolutely.
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<ASHLEY>And I hope it's not a battle, because the movie we're discussing today is just one battle after another.
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<BOBBY>Oh, nice.
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<ASHLEY>I made it up right now, so it was probably really stupid.
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<BOBBY>The title of the movie?
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<BOBBY>No, that's the title.
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<ASHLEY>No, everything I said before that.
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<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
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<BOBBY>Well, that's...
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<BOBBY>The randomness is what makes it so entertaining and exciting.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, good.
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<ASHLEY>I hope you listeners out there agree to.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, it does.
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<BOBBY>Some days, it feels like a battle just to exist.
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<BOBBY>Some days, it feels like a battle to go to work or go to the gym or eat healthy or do anything other than lay on the couch like a slug.
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<ASHLEY>Eat bon-bons all day.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>But that's the reason why you got to pick and choose your battles.
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<BOBBY>It's just one battle after another.
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<ASHLEY>That's so true.
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<BOBBY>There you go.
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<BOBBY>Well, as Ashley eluded to, we are discussing one battle after another, and I don't want this MICROSODE to be as long as the movie, so I think I'm going to jump right into the movie details.
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<BOBBY>Perfect.
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<ASHLEY>That's a great idea.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>I'm going to give you guys the movie details.
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<BOBBY>The movie name is One Battle After Another, as Ashley eluded to.
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<BOBBY>The release date was September 26th of 2025.
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<BOBBY>The genre, now they had a bunch of different genres, but just like we said, we are only doing three.
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<BOBBY>So action epic, political thriller, and dark comedy.
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<ASHLEY>Nice.
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<BOBBY>It has a runtime of two hours and 41 minutes.
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<BOBBY>It's rated R for pervasive language, violence, sexual content, and drug use, which there's a lot of all of those things.
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<BOBBY>So it's definitely deserved it to R rating.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>The director was Paul Thomas Anderson, and he's directed a few things.
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<BOBBY>If you don't know about him, he directed There Will Be Blood, The Master, Boogie Nights, and Punch Drunk Love, among many other things.
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<BOBBY>And a fun fact, he's married to Maya Rudolph.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, I thought it was just his partner.
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<BOBBY>No.
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<ASHLEY>They're married?
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, nice.
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<BOBBY>They've been married, I think it said since 2001.
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<ASHLEY>That is awesome.
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<ASHLEY>I like when I see couples married for that long.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Good for them.
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<BOBBY>Especially in Hollywood, I'm sure it's probably pretty difficult.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So these are the platforms that you can watch the movie on with currently free, with subscription, obviously, HBO Max, Hulu, Disney Plus, Amazon Prime Video, Sling TV and the Roku channel.
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<BOBBY>And if you don't have any of those subscriptions, you can pay $6.99 to rent the movie on either Apple TV+, Google Play Movies or Fandango at Home.
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<BOBBY>And those are your movie details.
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<ASHLEY>Outstanding.
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<BOBBY>Thank you.
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<BOBBY>I appreciate that.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So with that, take it away.
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<ASHLEY>So for Ashley's take on the trailer, the movie, One Battle After Another, here it goes.
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<BOBBY>Fire away.
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<ASHLEY>A former revolutionary attempts to live a normal life with his daughter, but that proves to be much harder said than done when each day brings another battle to overcome.
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<ASHLEY>End of Ashley's take.
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<BOBBY>Wow.
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<BOBBY>It's pretty imaginative.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I mean, I guess that's what you get out of the trailer, so that's pretty cool.
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<ASHLEY>You don't get a lot out of the trailer for this one.
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<BOBBY>No.
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<ASHLEY>You know it's action.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>And drama.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>And that's it.
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<BOBBY>Well, I mean, that's pretty much what the genre was, so you did a pretty good job.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, good.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So this is the IMDb synopsis.
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<BOBBY>When their evil enemy resurfaces after 16 years, a group of ex-revolutionaries reunite to rescue the daughter of one of their own.
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<BOBBY>End of synopsis.
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<ASHLEY>That's a much better synopsis than I thought it was going to be about.
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<BOBBY>Oh, good.
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<ASHLEY>After watching the movie, if you haven't seen this, his synopsis is what you'd want to follow.
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<ASHLEY>You would not want to follow mine.
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<ASHLEY>It is not just an average story about a family that lives in America.
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<ASHLEY>There's a lot going on in this.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Well, that's not what you said.
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<BOBBY>You said the first time you saw it, that's what you thought.
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<BOBBY>But when you watched it again, you understood a lot more about it.
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<ASHLEY>But that's only after I watched the movie.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>But you hadn't seen, I mean, you could have watched the trailer again before you watched the movie, and maybe that's what we'll do moving forward.
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<ASHLEY>Because it had been a long time before I saw the movie after we saw the trailer.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<BOBBY>I mean, that makes a ton of sense then.
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<BOBBY>Well, with that, you want to jump into those cold, hard movie facts?
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>So my first movie fact, I hope you don't have this one.
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<BOBBY>Okay, fingers crossed.
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<ASHLEY>Is that One Battle After Another was inspired by the novel Vineland by Thomas Pynchon, but it was like loosely translated.
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<ASHLEY>So it incorporates not the specific storyline and timeline, but the theme, tone, and political undercurrents, such as government power and surveillance, disillusionment after political movements fail, people aging out of rebellion and into exhaustion.
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<ASHLEY>It modernizes and reshapes these ideas into a more character-focused story.
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<ASHLEY>Because I guess that novel was very, there was a lot going on.
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<BOBBY>In the novel?
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>So this just picks up the theme.
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<ASHLEY>It's kind of like if you're watching Marvel and it's a universe.
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<ASHLEY>It just like is another story in that universe.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I saw that there was a lot.
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<BOBBY>When I was doing Looking for Movie Facts 2, it was inspired by that.
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<BOBBY>There's also a couple of poems that one of the movements had.
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<BOBBY>I just did a little bit of research on it because there's a lot of historical stuff that it references.
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<BOBBY>And so I was like, wow, this is a lot of, it's a lot more interesting, but it's also a huge deep dive in trying to figure out all this.
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<BOBBY>My first movie fact is that Colonel Lockjaw, played by Sean Penn, his second in command and chief interrogator is played by a non-professional actor.
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<BOBBY>His name is James Raderman, and he is slash was a security consultant and former Homeland Security Investigations HSI special agent.
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<BOBBY>And outside of being in a documentary about something called Trade briefly, this is his first motion picture.
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<ASHLEY>That is very interesting.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>How did they find him?
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<BOBBY>You know, when guys work in that kind of industry, whether you're a special investigator or you are a security consultant, your name gets out there because people on movies want to have stuff that looks like real life.
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<BOBBY>So if you have the continuity people, but you also have professionals that are on stage or on the sets, making sure the fighting looks real, making sure the gun battles look real.
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<BOBBY>And so he was able to bring some authenticity to the character.
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<BOBBY>Now, I don't know if he was just like there as a consultant.
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<BOBBY>They're like, wow, you're really good at what you do.
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<BOBBY>Why don't you like be in this movie?
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<BOBBY>And he might have just said, sure.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, we need someone else.
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<ASHLEY>He was already the consultant.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>He's like, well, I mean, I have my uniform.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>Cool.
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<BOBBY>I guess so.
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<ASHLEY>Also.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>Speaking of, does your movie fact have anything to do with that?
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<ASHLEY>Is your movie fact different?
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<ASHLEY>Your second one?
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>My second movie fact is different from that.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>I found out that Chase Infinity, who played the daughter Willa.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>This was her first film debut.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I had that in my acting notes.
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<BOBBY>So that'll come up a little bit later in the show.
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<BOBBY>But yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Cool.
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<ASHLEY>I just thought that was really interesting.
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<ASHLEY>So being her first film debut, that reminded me of Banks Pierce from Play Day and Sora Wong from Bring Her Back.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I mean, for her to have that as her main first role, she did an excellent job.
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<BOBBY>And we'll get into that a little bit later.
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<BOBBY>But yeah, she did a really good job.
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<BOBBY>But no, my second movie fact doesn't have anything to do with that.
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<BOBBY>So I'm very excited to hear what yours may be.
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<ASHLEY>Yay.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>So my second movie fact is that the exterior of the mansion where the Christmas Adventurers Club meets was the home of Ronald Reagan in Sacramento when he was governor of California.
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<BOBBY>Wow.
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<BOBBY>I did not know that.
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<ASHLEY>And I have a bonus fact that relates to the Christmas Adventurers Club as well.
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<BOBBY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>They had a secret knock.
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<ASHLEY>Do you know what song that knock was based off of?
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<BOBBY>Huh.
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<BOBBY>I know what you're talking about.
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<BOBBY>Was it like Merry Christmas or something?
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<ASHLEY>It was Jingle Bells.
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<BOBBY>Oh, OK.
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<BOBBY>That's pretty cool.
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<ASHLEY>Isn't that interesting?
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<ASHLEY>I knew it sounded familiar.
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<ASHLEY>So when I read that, I thought that has to be what it is.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I remember specifically that scene because I'm like, oh, you know, a secret knock.
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<BOBBY>But I didn't I never would have guessed that's what it was.
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<ASHLEY>No.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<ASHLEY>And oh, I just want to mention, just in case people don't know what the Christmas Adventurers Club is, this one is for our Spoiler-Free fans.
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<ASHLEY>The Christmas Adventurers Club is a powerful secret society of people who go after other people and take their lives when they deem it's necessary.
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<BOBBY>Oh, okay.
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<BOBBY>Oh, you looked that up?
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<BOBBY>That's what it was?
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<ASHLEY>No, it was on the Wikipedia page and I didn't go to the Wikipedia page, but it came up in my search results and I was like, oh, that's interesting.
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<ASHLEY>So I added it.
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<BOBBY>There you go.
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<ASHLEY>Just in case anyone cared.
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<BOBBY>Very cool.
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<BOBBY>I didn't.
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<BOBBY>I mean, I thought it was pretty straightforward what they were doing in the movies.
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<BOBBY>I didn't think I would look it up, but that makes sense.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, you mean after if they've already watched the movie.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>So my second fact is that a French 75, which was the name of the revolutionaries in this movie, is a cocktail made from gin, champagne, lemon juice and sugar.
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<BOBBY>It was named due to having a kick that felt like being shelled by 75 millimeter cannon that the French used in both World Wars.
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<BOBBY>So that was why they named it a French 75.
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<ASHLEY>Have you had a French 75?
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<BOBBY>No, have you?
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<ASHLEY>One of the girls at my last job loved those.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>So I either had one or I had a taste of one.
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<BOBBY>And?
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<ASHLEY>And it was very good.
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<BOBBY>Oh, so it didn't feel like you're getting shelled by a huge cannon from World Wars One and Two.
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<ASHLEY>Maybe I had a taste then.
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<BOBBY>I mean, maybe they just made it and they called it that from back then.
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<BOBBY>But like if they would have had like an AMF or something now, yeah, people would they be like, whoa, this is out of control.
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<ASHLEY>Maybe it's because they use two different kinds of alcohol.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>So they thought, oh, my gosh, you can't do this.
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<ASHLEY>Little did they know society would challenge that.
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<BOBBY>Little did they know that we would incredibly, we would make a thousand types of alcohol and mix them all together.
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<ASHLEY>And what have you got?
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<BOBBY>Bippity boppity, you're going to blow your shoes off.
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<BOBBY>Try doing like the three wise men or some of the other things that are out there or car bomb or whatever else.
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<BOBBY>It's like, holy smokes.
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<BOBBY>Some of the stuff that people come up with.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<BOBBY>Exactly.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<BOBBY>So those were some cold, hard movie facts coming right at you.
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<ASHLEY>And now, let's get into this review.
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<BOBBY>Whoa, okay.
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<ASHLEY>This movie started with me feeling very confused.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>So I wrote down kind of my impressions of my mood throughout the movie.
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<ASHLEY>So while I was watching this movie, I wrote down different emotions that I felt throughout the movie at different points.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<BOBBY>That's an interesting way to do it.
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<ASHLEY>I feel like I felt so many different emotions.
00:14:30.622 --> 00:14:33.322
<ASHLEY>So my first, confused.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
00:14:34.462 --> 00:14:36.382
<ASHLEY>Then disgusted.
00:14:36.382 --> 00:14:36.862
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:14:36.862 --> 00:14:38.582
<ASHLEY>And then confused.
00:14:38.582 --> 00:14:40.442
<ASHLEY>And then interested.
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<ASHLEY>And then like, oh, okay.
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<BOBBY>And then it just keeps, then it's finally like you got caught up in this world.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>So then it was confusion through confusion with disgusted in the middle.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>All happened in the course of 45 minutes.
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<ASHLEY>Then you have an hour and a half of interesting in the last five minutes where you're like, oh, okay.
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<BOBBY>Exactly.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I'm kind of right there with you.
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<BOBBY>I usually like to shoot off the cuff or talk in generalities, but I'm going to read what I wrote.
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<BOBBY>Because I think it's pretty close to what you were talking about.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<BOBBY>So there is a ton of nuance and innuendo throughout this story.
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<BOBBY>The movie seemingly leaves a lot to the imagination with the characters' backgrounds and with specific points that they want to make, which they are okay leaving up to the viewer.
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<BOBBY>I like that in certain aspects, they leave it up to the imagination, but there are a few loose ends and I would have enjoyed getting closures or answers to them.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate to me too.
00:15:46.702 --> 00:15:48.042
<ASHLEY>I do agree with that.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, I think the story overall, like you said, the first 45 minutes are tough to get through.
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<ASHLEY>They really are.
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<BOBBY>And that isn't us saying that to scare you away from the movie.
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<BOBBY>It's just if you have to go into this movie with no expectations and then just watch it for what it is and get through the first half an hour.
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<BOBBY>And then after that, it really picks up.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, I might even say like 50 minutes.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>This is a movie where you don't know how good the movie is until after you've watched the entire thing.
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<ASHLEY>You cannot rate it from the first 15 minutes or even the first half hour.
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<ASHLEY>You can't, or hour to be honest, you literally have to watch the entire thing.
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<ASHLEY>And then when you soak it in and you think about it as a whole, then you realize how good it is.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>That's a great way to put it.
00:16:49.562 --> 00:16:52.282
<BOBBY>I couldn't have said it any better myself because I didn't.
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<BOBBY>No, that's a really, really good way of putting it.
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<BOBBY>And it is a very interesting story overall.
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<BOBBY>But yeah, it's like you got to, what do they say?
00:17:01.122 --> 00:17:03.102
<BOBBY>You got to eat the frog first or whatever.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>You just got to get through that first little bit because there is definitely a time we watch it in two separate pieces.
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<BOBBY>Like what we're saying, like 30 minutes in, you're like, I don't know if I really want to continue with this.
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<ASHLEY>Yes, we were dreading watching it.
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<ASHLEY>The only reason why we stopped the first time was because we started it too late toward the night.
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<ASHLEY>But then we had to watch the I think we watched until like 49 minutes or something.
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<ASHLEY>And I did not want to watch anymore.
00:17:31.622 --> 00:17:31.802
<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>So once we got past that, we started watching the rest.
00:17:36.742 --> 00:17:38.802
<ASHLEY>And it was so good at the...
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<ASHLEY>Like you just have to get through it.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>Because it's about the art of the movie.
00:17:46.742 --> 00:17:51.182
<ASHLEY>It's not, oh, this is a wonderful story that I enjoy watching.
00:17:51.182 --> 00:17:55.222
<ASHLEY>It's more of like, wow, this is like real life.
00:17:55.222 --> 00:17:59.222
<ASHLEY>It's like you took a step into someone's real life.
00:17:59.242 --> 00:17:59.502
<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>That's why you have to watch the whole thing.
00:18:02.022 --> 00:18:14.022
<ASHLEY>Because you need to see the evolution of positive, like struggles and then wins and struggles and wins throughout the whole thing and see it as a whole.
00:18:14.022 --> 00:18:14.342
<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>So I even saw a lot of reviews saying, oh, this was, I walked out of the theater 45 minutes in.
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<ASHLEY>And now after seeing the whole movie, I wish they stayed.
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<BOBBY>Right.
00:18:27.542 --> 00:18:33.722
<ASHLEY>But I don't blame them if they wanted to walk out, because that first 45 minutes was tough.
00:18:33.722 --> 00:18:34.242
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:18:34.242 --> 00:18:38.562
<ASHLEY>So when I saw people say, I turned it off after 40 minutes, I'm like, oh no.
00:18:38.562 --> 00:18:39.922
<BOBBY>So you missed the best part.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>It like gets so interesting right after that.
00:18:43.022 --> 00:18:45.282
<ASHLEY>When it says 15 years later, then it starts.
00:18:45.282 --> 00:18:45.542
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:18:45.542 --> 00:18:50.902
<ASHLEY>Then that was just to get you familiar with the characters.
00:18:50.902 --> 00:18:51.882
<BOBBY>And only some of them.
00:18:51.882 --> 00:18:53.022
<ASHLEY>And only a little bit.
00:18:53.022 --> 00:18:54.542
<ASHLEY>And only a little bit.
00:18:54.542 --> 00:18:54.722
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>I think it was, they put the stuff at the beginning to give you a feeling.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
00:19:01.262 --> 00:19:04.802
<ASHLEY>Which brings me to characters and acting.
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<ASHLEY>If we didn't see the first 45 minutes of the movie, I don't think my feelings would have been that intense for Perfidia.
00:19:13.362 --> 00:19:14.322
<BOBBY>Oh, right.
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<ASHLEY>I didn't like the character.
00:19:15.962 --> 00:19:29.162
<ASHLEY>And if we didn't see her in all of those scenes, I don't think I would have the negative emotion associated with that character as I did while watching the movie.
00:19:29.162 --> 00:19:39.222
<ASHLEY>So if we didn't watch it, even if we skip to the forward, you have to see that first to get that deep emotion that grounds you in the movie.
00:19:39.222 --> 00:19:40.022
<BOBBY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>I agree.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, I completely agree.
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<ASHLEY>And I think all of the acting too was so real.
00:19:50.082 --> 00:19:50.502
<BOBBY>Right.
00:19:50.502 --> 00:19:56.882
<ASHLEY>I also read that it must have been the director decided that it was better for them to underreact than overreact.
00:19:56.882 --> 00:20:02.302
<ASHLEY>So he got more of a real expression of emotion.
00:20:02.302 --> 00:20:05.422
<ASHLEY>And the actors did a fantastic job with that.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, I thought all the main actors were incredible.
00:20:11.222 --> 00:20:16.622
<BOBBY>And then to your point, the young lady that was played by Chase Infinity.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, yeah.
00:20:17.842 --> 00:20:18.522
<ASHLEY>Willa.
00:20:18.982 --> 00:20:23.902
<BOBBY>She did an awesome, awesome job for it being her first, like, on screen.
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<BOBBY>I thought Leo did an incredible job of just being like what I guess it would mean to be a former revolutionary and be paranoid about everything.
00:20:36.342 --> 00:20:37.262
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:20:37.262 --> 00:20:38.082
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:20:38.082 --> 00:20:43.222
<ASHLEY>And he smokes weed and drinks alcohol, and he says it in the movie.
00:20:43.682 --> 00:20:45.002
<ASHLEY>Like, this is me.
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<ASHLEY>This is what I did.
00:20:46.002 --> 00:20:52.082
<ASHLEY>Like, I raised a daughter and went to work and, you know, had to deal with life.
00:20:52.262 --> 00:20:55.562
<ASHLEY>That's like you go and you do all this stuff.
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<ASHLEY>And then just like based off of that novel, the disillusionment of everything you're doing, it's kind of like, oh, well, nothing's going to change.
00:21:04.702 --> 00:21:05.982
<ASHLEY>This is what it is now.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:21:06.262 --> 00:21:10.282
<ASHLEY>Like nothing, you know, you're 20s, you're new, and you're excited.
00:21:10.282 --> 00:21:11.642
<ASHLEY>Even you're 30s.
00:21:11.642 --> 00:21:11.922
<BOBBY>Right.
00:21:11.922 --> 00:21:13.382
<ASHLEY>Oh, I can make a change.
00:21:13.382 --> 00:21:14.602
<ASHLEY>I can do this.
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<ASHLEY>And then you realize, you sink with that feeling.
00:21:17.662 --> 00:21:22.742
<ASHLEY>Oh, so many people have tried, and so many people are continuing to try, and we're moving backwards.
00:21:22.742 --> 00:21:24.342
<ASHLEY>That's very interesting.
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<ASHLEY>So I'm just going to give up and just live the most boring basic life because it feels like the disillusionment of power.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, I could definitely see where you're coming from.
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<BOBBY>And I think he really encapsulated that character.
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<BOBBY>Sean Penn did an awesome job.
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<BOBBY>I'm sure he's going to be up for a bunch of stuff for Colonel Lockjaw.
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<ASHLEY>I think he's nominated.
00:21:46.802 --> 00:21:47.282
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:21:47.282 --> 00:21:48.162
<BOBBY>I mean, he should be.
00:21:48.162 --> 00:21:50.562
<BOBBY>And then Benicio del Toro was awesome.
00:21:50.682 --> 00:21:54.822
<BOBBY>Even though it was a kind of like a smaller role or not.
00:21:54.822 --> 00:21:57.742
<BOBBY>He wasn't on screen for that long, it didn't feel like.
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<BOBBY>Maybe he's on screen for a lot longer than what I remembered.
00:22:00.922 --> 00:22:03.362
<BOBBY>Sensei.
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<ASHLEY>That was his name in the movie.
00:22:04.902 --> 00:22:06.682
<BOBBY>Yeah, that's just what everybody called him.
00:22:06.682 --> 00:22:07.382
<BOBBY>Right.
00:22:07.382 --> 00:22:15.162
<BOBBY>But I think he also just kind of stole the show with the way that he took over those scenes.
00:22:15.162 --> 00:22:15.542
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:22:15.542 --> 00:22:16.682
<BOBBY>He was so interesting.
00:22:16.742 --> 00:22:18.162
<ASHLEY>I completely agree.
00:22:18.162 --> 00:22:25.762
<BOBBY>Because it was like watching Yen and Yang, you have one character that's freaking out and the other character that's just going about business like, okay, this is life.
00:22:25.762 --> 00:22:26.542
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:22:26.542 --> 00:22:28.042
<ASHLEY>He was calm.
00:22:28.042 --> 00:22:30.982
<ASHLEY>He was collected, but he was doing things.
00:22:30.982 --> 00:22:32.862
<ASHLEY>He was getting things done.
00:22:32.862 --> 00:22:33.502
<BOBBY>Exactly.
00:22:33.502 --> 00:22:35.342
<ASHLEY>But calmly.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:22:35.542 --> 00:22:37.042
<BOBBY>Ocean waves, ocean waves.
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<BOBBY>Everyone just relax.
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<BOBBY>And then, yeah, I just thought he did an incredible job.
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<BOBBY>The other characters and the people that they used to underact, it was very, you can tell.
00:22:48.382 --> 00:22:49.122
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:22:49.122 --> 00:22:55.182
<BOBBY>You can absolutely tell because you're like, oh, that's not great acting.
00:22:55.182 --> 00:22:55.822
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:22:55.822 --> 00:22:58.562
<BOBBY>But I get it because you had mentioned it.
00:22:58.562 --> 00:23:03.442
<BOBBY>So if you, I guess if that's what you're looking for, they succeeded.
00:23:03.442 --> 00:23:04.062
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:23:04.062 --> 00:23:07.322
<ASHLEY>I think the main and supporting characters did a fantastic job.
00:23:07.322 --> 00:23:07.962
<ASHLEY>But you're right.
00:23:07.962 --> 00:23:14.082
<ASHLEY>Some of the tertiary characters, I don't know, were less.
00:23:14.082 --> 00:23:14.342
<ASHLEY>Great.
00:23:14.762 --> 00:23:14.922
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:23:14.922 --> 00:23:18.122
<BOBBY>So I think your assessment kind of lines up with mine.
00:23:18.122 --> 00:23:18.342
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:23:18.342 --> 00:23:20.562
<BOBBY>The main characters did an excellent job.
00:23:20.562 --> 00:23:24.622
<BOBBY>Secondary, tertiary characters could have been better.
00:23:24.622 --> 00:23:25.082
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:23:25.082 --> 00:23:34.382
<BOBBY>But I mean, the fact that you looked up that other fact, and you knew that he was telling them to under act, that was awesome.
00:23:34.382 --> 00:23:38.842
<BOBBY>So it explains a little bit why there wasn't as much emphasis on those characters.
00:23:39.262 --> 00:23:40.502
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:23:40.502 --> 00:23:44.522
<ASHLEY>And that reminds me of writing a dialogue.
00:23:44.562 --> 00:23:45.702
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:23:45.702 --> 00:23:49.682
<ASHLEY>And the director said that he wanted them to under act.
00:23:49.682 --> 00:23:55.642
<ASHLEY>He also let them know there weren't like precise lines that they had to say.
00:23:55.642 --> 00:24:00.102
<ASHLEY>Like, they had to say, I mean, they obviously had lines.
00:24:00.102 --> 00:24:00.482
<BOBBY>Right.
00:24:00.482 --> 00:24:04.722
<ASHLEY>But it didn't need to be on script, like 100% on script.
00:24:04.762 --> 00:24:05.082
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:24:05.082 --> 00:24:08.942
<BOBBY>He gave them a little bit more flexibility in their characters.
00:24:08.942 --> 00:24:16.422
<BOBBY>So, he didn't really say, I want you to line for line read this, but this is the generality of the situation in the scene we're in.
00:24:16.422 --> 00:24:17.222
<ASHLEY>I believe so.
00:24:17.222 --> 00:24:17.722
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:24:17.722 --> 00:24:18.502
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:24:18.502 --> 00:24:24.682
<ASHLEY>And I think Leo did a fantastic job at just reacting to things.
00:24:24.682 --> 00:24:25.402
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:24:25.402 --> 00:24:33.062
<ASHLEY>He played a nervous dad so well, like so accurately.
00:24:33.062 --> 00:24:37.722
<ASHLEY>I don't think I've seen him in a part like that before.
00:24:37.722 --> 00:24:41.622
<ASHLEY>So, this was so unexpected, but he was amazing.
00:24:41.622 --> 00:24:43.122
<BOBBY>Oh, he was so good.
00:24:44.642 --> 00:24:48.422
<ASHLEY>I've never seen him act this dramatically in a non-hero.
00:24:48.422 --> 00:24:50.822
<ASHLEY>I mean, he is kind of a hero, but not really.
00:24:50.822 --> 00:24:52.922
<ASHLEY>He's like a dad hero, you know?
00:24:52.922 --> 00:24:58.642
<BOBBY>I would say, if anything, like it almost seems Padicio del Toro's character is more of a hero than anyone else.
00:24:58.662 --> 00:24:59.642
<BOBBY>Right.
00:24:59.642 --> 00:25:03.942
<BOBBY>So to your point, he's just reacting to the situation that's going on around him.
00:25:03.942 --> 00:25:04.882
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:25:04.882 --> 00:25:05.982
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:25:05.982 --> 00:25:10.702
<BOBBY>Yeah, I wrote, I'm just going to read this because it seems a little bit easier.
00:25:10.702 --> 00:25:25.862
<BOBBY>But what I said for writing and dialogue was to see how much of the movie was shaped around newspaper articles, other movies, resistance pieces, and turning that into a cohesive project is incredibly cool and takes a lot of talent.
00:25:26.402 --> 00:25:33.462
<BOBBY>Paul Thomas Anderson wrote and directed the film, and you can see he had a very clear vision of what he wanted to make.
00:25:33.462 --> 00:25:35.942
<BOBBY>And the humor in it also helps a ton.
00:25:35.942 --> 00:25:37.562
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:25:37.562 --> 00:25:44.442
<BOBBY>So that's what I had for writing and dialogue because I thought he knew exactly what he was looking for.
00:25:44.442 --> 00:25:48.522
<BOBBY>And so that's how he wrote it, to hear that he was letting people have flexibility.
00:25:48.522 --> 00:25:49.682
<BOBBY>I think that's really cool too.
00:25:50.882 --> 00:26:02.302
<ASHLEY>It was such a good combination, like you said, of so many different aspects of real life.
00:26:02.302 --> 00:26:02.982
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:26:02.982 --> 00:26:13.322
<ASHLEY>And putting them all together and doing the research and hiring consultants and getting all of, like, this accurate data together and then putting it together around a story.
00:26:13.322 --> 00:26:14.722
<BOBBY>Right.
00:26:14.722 --> 00:26:15.742
<ASHLEY>I completely agree.
00:26:16.022 --> 00:26:16.262
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:26:16.262 --> 00:26:24.442
<BOBBY>He did a great job of, like you said, pulling from all of those resources and writing something very specific.
00:26:24.442 --> 00:26:25.042
<BOBBY>I don't know.
00:26:25.042 --> 00:26:30.242
<BOBBY>I didn't get that far into it, but he said writing this script took him 20 years.
00:26:30.242 --> 00:26:32.582
<BOBBY>And I don't know what he meant by that specifically.
00:26:32.582 --> 00:26:40.182
<BOBBY>I don't know if it was because he came up with an idea in his mind and then pulled from history and tried to make something more modern.
00:26:40.182 --> 00:26:40.902
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:26:40.902 --> 00:26:52.662
<BOBBY>I don't know if maybe it just wasn't the right time in his career to make a movie like that, but I think he did an excellent job with the writing and dialogue, and there's a lot of funny stuff in it too, which you wouldn't expect with something so dramatic.
00:26:52.662 --> 00:26:54.562
<ASHLEY>It's so true.
00:26:54.562 --> 00:26:58.322
<ASHLEY>And by Leo's reactions are also very funny.
00:26:58.322 --> 00:26:59.042
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:26:59.042 --> 00:27:11.442
<ASHLEY>But I really liked the humor in like the small things, like the Christmas Adventurers Club, which basically seems to describe my feelings of racist groups.
00:27:12.942 --> 00:27:16.002
<ASHLEY>Just kind of like a joke.
00:27:16.002 --> 00:27:17.802
<ASHLEY>That's a fucking joke.
00:27:17.802 --> 00:27:23.362
<ASHLEY>Well, like, why would anyone feel like they're superior?
00:27:23.362 --> 00:27:24.822
<ASHLEY>That's a whole other thing.
00:27:24.822 --> 00:27:26.342
<BOBBY>Let's not go down that off-ramp.
00:27:26.342 --> 00:27:29.022
<BOBBY>We just know that it exists in the world.
00:27:29.022 --> 00:27:31.322
<ASHLEY>I love that they named it that.
00:27:31.322 --> 00:27:32.682
<ASHLEY>And it was like Hail to St.
00:27:32.682 --> 00:27:33.102
<ASHLEY>Nick.
00:27:33.102 --> 00:27:34.722
<ASHLEY>It's so fucking funny.
00:27:34.722 --> 00:27:35.282
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:27:35.282 --> 00:27:36.542
<BOBBY>Well, I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
00:27:36.542 --> 00:27:44.102
<BOBBY>And like I said, it was nice that he brought a little bit of humor to a pretty heavy story line if you get into the depths of it, you know?
00:27:44.102 --> 00:27:44.422
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:27:44.422 --> 00:27:48.142
<ASHLEY>I also didn't like that at the beginning, they said pussy a lot.
00:27:48.142 --> 00:27:49.282
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:27:49.862 --> 00:27:51.662
<ASHLEY>I mean, I had to say it.
00:27:51.662 --> 00:27:57.782
<ASHLEY>Just in case you hear it the first 45 minutes, like the whole time, you don't really hear it after that.
00:27:57.782 --> 00:27:58.082
<BOBBY>Right.
00:27:58.082 --> 00:28:01.562
<ASHLEY>It's just in that first, ugh, forty five minutes.
00:28:01.562 --> 00:28:03.822
<BOBBY>Pre-movie movie.
00:28:03.822 --> 00:28:05.302
<ASHLEY>Here's the prequel to the movie.
00:28:05.302 --> 00:28:06.522
<BOBBY>Yeah, exactly.
00:28:06.522 --> 00:28:07.202
<BOBBY>In real time.
00:28:07.482 --> 00:28:08.702
<ASHLEY>Yeah, the intro.
00:28:08.702 --> 00:28:10.662
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:28:10.662 --> 00:28:17.322
<ASHLEY>For the visuals and direction, I really liked the visual grittiness you got by watching the movie.
00:28:17.322 --> 00:28:17.822
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:28:17.822 --> 00:28:20.462
<ASHLEY>Because it felt like we were watching real life.
00:28:20.462 --> 00:28:20.962
<BOBBY>Yes.
00:28:20.962 --> 00:28:22.702
<ASHLEY>We weren't watching a movie.
00:28:22.702 --> 00:28:23.082
<BOBBY>Right.
00:28:23.082 --> 00:28:38.422
<BOBBY>I know we saw it at home, but the movie was actually shot in VistaVision, which means that, and I had to look this up, they run the film horizontally when they're recording it instead of vertically.
00:28:38.422 --> 00:28:43.782
<BOBBY>And so it allows for these perforations, or they call them like the timing of the frame.
00:28:43.782 --> 00:28:47.902
<BOBBY>Instead of it being four perforations, it's eight perforations.
00:28:47.902 --> 00:28:49.582
<BOBBY>So it makes everything feel wider.
00:28:49.582 --> 00:28:54.802
<BOBBY>So you get so much more in an actual scene, the way that it was shot.
00:28:54.802 --> 00:28:57.042
<BOBBY>And it's called VistaVision.
00:28:57.042 --> 00:29:01.002
<ASHLEY>And that means they're filming it portrait instead of landscape.
00:29:01.082 --> 00:29:01.302
<BOBBY>Right.
00:29:01.302 --> 00:29:09.462
<BOBBY>And so when you see the cameras, yeah, when you see a regular camera on a movie set, it's usually just going around in a circle, right?
00:29:09.462 --> 00:29:12.082
<BOBBY>But for this, they turn it sideways.
00:29:12.082 --> 00:29:15.502
<BOBBY>So it captures more of the environment around it.
00:29:15.502 --> 00:29:23.302
<BOBBY>Whereas if you film it vertically, on if you were to take the film out of the can, there's only four little perforations.
00:29:23.302 --> 00:29:24.342
<ASHLEY>Oh, okay.
00:29:24.342 --> 00:29:33.302
<BOBBY>But because they shoot it with basically the whole horizon, it's kind of like they're doing a panoramic.
00:29:33.302 --> 00:29:33.862
<BOBBY>Correct.
00:29:33.862 --> 00:29:35.662
<ASHLEY>That is so cool.
00:29:35.662 --> 00:29:36.362
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:29:36.362 --> 00:29:47.422
<BOBBY>So yeah, if you took a panoramic picture on your iPhone or whatever else, and you know how that can get in so many more details than just shooting it vertically, that's what they film it on.
00:29:47.422 --> 00:29:52.602
<BOBBY>And it's the second one that's been done in the past, I think they said 20 years.
00:29:52.662 --> 00:29:53.242
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:29:53.242 --> 00:29:57.082
<BOBBY>Because a lot of places don't show it like that.
00:29:57.082 --> 00:30:00.142
<BOBBY>And so that was another thing that somebody said.
00:30:00.142 --> 00:30:07.382
<BOBBY>They went and saw it in IMAX because it's one of those movies that really, I guess, pulls it all together.
00:30:07.382 --> 00:30:17.362
<BOBBY>And one of the people said at the very end, that whole end scene, they felt like they were on a roller coaster the entire time because of the way that it was shot and the way that it felt in IMAX.
00:30:17.422 --> 00:30:18.222
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:30:18.222 --> 00:30:18.882
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:30:18.882 --> 00:30:19.802
<BOBBY>That was just going back to the...
00:30:19.802 --> 00:30:21.702
<ASHLEY>That's kind of what it felt like for me too.
00:30:21.702 --> 00:30:31.702
<BOBBY>But they said that usually when you shoot it like that, you get that grittiness on the film so it isn't as clear because it has more information.
00:30:31.702 --> 00:30:33.762
<ASHLEY>That is so interesting.
00:30:33.762 --> 00:30:34.402
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:30:34.402 --> 00:30:38.602
<BOBBY>I didn't want to do that as one of my movie facts because I wanted to save it for visuals.
00:30:38.602 --> 00:30:41.062
<BOBBY>So I'm glad that you brought that up.
00:30:41.062 --> 00:30:42.462
<ASHLEY>That is so cool.
00:30:42.462 --> 00:30:42.962
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:30:42.962 --> 00:30:44.622
<ASHLEY>I really like that.
00:30:44.622 --> 00:30:44.982
<BOBBY>Thank you.
00:30:45.282 --> 00:30:48.662
<ASHLEY>Also, mentioning the car scene.
00:30:48.662 --> 00:30:49.382
<BOBBY>Yes.
00:30:49.382 --> 00:31:05.842
<ASHLEY>Going up and down the hills did feel like a roller coaster, but when we panned back to her face in the car, and the camera was obviously on a car doing something because it was really shaking, I thought I was going to be sick watching her.
00:31:05.842 --> 00:31:11.642
<ASHLEY>So because it has such little room that way, that makes a lot more sense.
00:31:12.242 --> 00:31:20.222
<ASHLEY>So movies that we see that move around a lot when they're not still, maybe those films are on VistaVision.
00:31:20.222 --> 00:31:27.302
<BOBBY>Well, they said it's a very unique way of filming it, and there's not a whole lot of movie theaters that can support it.
00:31:27.302 --> 00:31:32.262
<BOBBY>But like I said, this was the second one that's been done in the past couple of years.
00:31:32.262 --> 00:31:33.982
<BOBBY>And I really like the way that it turned out.
00:31:33.982 --> 00:31:37.082
<BOBBY>I guess that's what they used to use a long time ago.
00:31:38.362 --> 00:31:44.102
<BOBBY>But they got into the more, the vertical, because it was easier to process.
00:31:44.102 --> 00:31:45.482
<ASHLEY>Wow.
00:31:45.482 --> 00:31:45.962
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:31:45.962 --> 00:31:46.662
<ASHLEY>I like it.
00:31:46.662 --> 00:31:47.382
<BOBBY>Very cool.
00:31:47.382 --> 00:31:49.362
<BOBBY>Well, thank you for allowing me to share.
00:31:49.362 --> 00:31:51.142
<ASHLEY>It's my pleasure.
00:31:51.142 --> 00:31:59.102
<ASHLEY>Oh, also, I liked that we sat in uncomfortable scenes for longer than necessary.
00:31:59.102 --> 00:31:59.982
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:31:59.982 --> 00:32:07.382
<ASHLEY>It's one of those movies where, I mean, I said this earlier, it's like, you don't know what you have until you watch the whole movie.
00:32:07.382 --> 00:32:07.942
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:32:07.942 --> 00:32:12.482
<ASHLEY>So, watching the movie is uncomfortable because life is uncomfortable.
00:32:12.482 --> 00:32:12.802
<ASHLEY>So, they...
00:32:12.802 --> 00:32:13.482
<BOBBY>Very true.
00:32:13.482 --> 00:32:17.022
<ASHLEY>They really made that feel accurate.
00:32:17.022 --> 00:32:17.782
<BOBBY>Right.
00:32:17.782 --> 00:32:18.922
<BOBBY>Yeah, I could totally see that.
00:32:18.922 --> 00:32:22.002
<BOBBY>There was definitely some very uncomfortable scenes.
00:32:22.002 --> 00:32:25.662
<BOBBY>So, be comfortable getting uncomfortable in this movie a little bit.
00:32:25.662 --> 00:32:26.122
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:32:26.122 --> 00:32:28.942
<BOBBY>I also like that there wasn't a ton of CGI.
00:32:28.942 --> 00:32:36.062
<BOBBY>I don't know if there was any, really, but there might have been some, so I don't want to say it wasn't at all.
00:32:36.062 --> 00:32:38.882
<BOBBY>But for the most part, everything you saw was real.
00:32:38.882 --> 00:32:42.682
<BOBBY>It felt tangible because of, like you're talking about, the grittiness.
00:32:42.682 --> 00:32:46.042
<BOBBY>Everything that you saw kind of just felt the right way.
00:32:46.042 --> 00:32:50.182
<BOBBY>Like it feels dirty or it looks too clean or everything's too so pressed.
00:32:50.182 --> 00:32:54.762
<BOBBY>And, you know, they did a fantastic job with direction and visuals that way.
00:32:54.762 --> 00:32:55.742
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:32:55.742 --> 00:33:10.502
<ASHLEY>I think if the movie overall was too visually pretty or high-definition, you know, if it looked more like a movie, it wouldn't have been as realistic.
00:33:10.502 --> 00:33:18.042
<ASHLEY>So if they filmed it in that polished way, it would have just glossed over all the challenges people have right now.
00:33:18.042 --> 00:33:20.042
<BOBBY>Yeah, I agree with you.
00:33:20.042 --> 00:33:26.662
<BOBBY>The only thing I will say is that I really wish they had taken out all of the sex at the very beginning.
00:33:27.622 --> 00:33:30.322
<BOBBY>I'm not a prude or anything, but it's like I don't need to see this.
00:33:30.742 --> 00:33:33.342
<BOBBY>Maybe it is, maybe it was supposed to be so that way.
00:33:33.342 --> 00:33:36.102
<BOBBY>It felt, made me feel uncomfortable.
00:33:36.102 --> 00:33:43.662
<ASHLEY>Those scenes felt so uncomfortable, and that's why I disliked Perfidia's character so much.
00:33:43.662 --> 00:33:44.202
<BOBBY>Right.
00:33:44.202 --> 00:33:53.842
<ASHLEY>If we didn't see those uncomfortable sexual scenes, I don't think I would have disliked her as intensely as I did.
00:33:53.842 --> 00:33:55.122
<BOBBY>I mean, that's a great point.
00:33:55.122 --> 00:33:57.742
<BOBBY>I can't disagree with you on that.
00:33:57.742 --> 00:34:06.782
<BOBBY>It's just sometimes you don't know what to expect, and then when it starts getting into that, it's like, okay, like a little bit, I get it, it's here and there and stuff.
00:34:06.782 --> 00:34:12.722
<BOBBY>But when it starts almost looking like a porn, it's like, this isn't what I really signed up for.
00:34:12.722 --> 00:34:13.542
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:34:13.542 --> 00:34:18.562
<BOBBY>But to your point, I think you make a very excellent observation there.
00:34:18.562 --> 00:34:24.382
<BOBBY>So yeah, I mean, you got to be comfortable being uncomfortable, I guess.
00:34:24.382 --> 00:34:27.602
<ASHLEY>That should be the motto for this movie.
00:34:28.602 --> 00:34:35.762
<ASHLEY>Yeah, maybe that is that is exactly if you want to see it, that's how you are going to feel.
00:34:35.762 --> 00:34:38.062
<ASHLEY>You got to be comfortable with being uncomfortable.
00:34:38.062 --> 00:34:41.102
<BOBBY>Yeah, there you go.
00:34:41.102 --> 00:34:49.642
<BOBBY>Yeah, I think that's a pretty good observation from this movie is you got to be comfortable being uncomfortable.
00:34:49.642 --> 00:34:54.362
<BOBBY>And maybe that's just what all of that, I guess, was meaning.
00:34:54.782 --> 00:34:58.842
<BOBBY>So, great observation for you or from you.
00:34:58.842 --> 00:35:02.042
<ASHLEY>Yeah, this movie, that's exactly what it is.
00:35:02.042 --> 00:35:04.002
<ASHLEY>Be comfortable being uncomfortable.
00:35:04.002 --> 00:35:05.242
<BOBBY>There you go.
00:35:05.242 --> 00:35:07.962
<ASHLEY>Would you like to share your score first?
00:35:07.962 --> 00:35:08.642
<BOBBY>Sure.
00:35:08.642 --> 00:35:15.182
<BOBBY>Yeah, so being comfortable being uncomfortable, let me give you the uncomfortability of this score.
00:35:17.562 --> 00:35:21.102
<BOBBY>So, overall, I gave it a 4.25.
00:35:21.102 --> 00:35:22.982
<ASHLEY>Wow, that's so close to me.
00:35:23.442 --> 00:35:24.122
<BOBBY>Oh, good.
00:35:24.122 --> 00:35:25.962
<BOBBY>I'm glad to hear it.
00:35:25.962 --> 00:35:33.862
<BOBBY>I think that this was an incredibly well made film, and it hooked me after about the first 30 to 45 minutes of the movie.
00:35:33.862 --> 00:35:40.722
<BOBBY>I understand why it's getting so much Oscar buzz and why it received such high Rotten Tomatoes and audience review scores.
00:35:40.722 --> 00:35:46.202
<BOBBY>I would highly recommend this for at least one watch and maybe one rewatch if you have the time.
00:35:46.202 --> 00:35:52.462
<BOBBY>It does seem like there could have been some time saved by not making things so uncomfortable.
00:35:52.862 --> 00:35:53.702
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:35:53.702 --> 00:35:59.602
<BOBBY>But I thought it was pretty well done overall, and that's the end of my rating.
00:35:59.602 --> 00:36:01.222
<BOBBY>So 4.25.
00:36:01.222 --> 00:36:05.142
<ASHLEY>I scored it a 4.86.
00:36:05.142 --> 00:36:06.162
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:36:06.162 --> 00:36:06.442
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:36:06.442 --> 00:36:17.242
<ASHLEY>Because after watching the entire thing, it's more about showing the audience what real life could be.
00:36:17.242 --> 00:36:17.942
<BOBBY>Right.
00:36:17.942 --> 00:36:26.762
<ASHLEY>So I hope this movie helps people who think this stuff is exaggerated, realize that it isn't.
00:36:26.762 --> 00:36:33.482
<ASHLEY>Like the hate and the corruption that they show in this movie happens in real life, in this country, now.
00:36:33.482 --> 00:36:34.002
<BOBBY>Right.
00:36:34.002 --> 00:36:38.502
<ASHLEY>And a lot of the reviews were like, this is such an exaggeration.
00:36:38.502 --> 00:36:40.662
<ASHLEY>This is not what goes on.
00:36:40.662 --> 00:36:46.882
<ASHLEY>So I think they wanted to show the audience, this is how uncomfortable it is for some people.
00:36:47.902 --> 00:36:48.322
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:36:48.322 --> 00:36:55.482
<BOBBY>I think if you take a look at it from that viewpoint, there is some stuff that probably was pretty over-exaggerated.
00:36:56.722 --> 00:37:00.082
<BOBBY>But there's also a lot of, I mean, what makes movies good.
00:37:00.082 --> 00:37:02.062
<BOBBY>They get people talking about things.
00:37:02.062 --> 00:37:02.382
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:37:02.382 --> 00:37:07.402
<BOBBY>And I think that that's one of the best parts about this film, because it is very divisive.
00:37:07.402 --> 00:37:11.002
<BOBBY>Some people hate it and some people really love it.
00:37:11.002 --> 00:37:17.542
<BOBBY>And I think that that's the sign of a good movie, is that it didn't pick on any one specific party.
00:37:17.542 --> 00:37:29.882
<BOBBY>It was more of, there's lots of illegal things going on all the time, to your point, but it just shows you what it could be for somebody who is disillusioned.
00:37:29.882 --> 00:37:33.242
<BOBBY>But I think the best part about the movie is it gets people talking.
00:37:33.242 --> 00:37:34.862
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:37:34.862 --> 00:37:36.202
<ASHLEY>I completely agree.
00:37:36.202 --> 00:37:43.922
<ASHLEY>And so I really like the movie as a whole, because it's just, I don't know, a slice out of someone's real life.
00:37:43.922 --> 00:37:45.522
<BOBBY>I mean, it definitely could be.
00:37:45.522 --> 00:37:52.542
<BOBBY>Movies come from the world that we live in and surround us, and telling one person's story doesn't make it true for everyone.
00:37:52.542 --> 00:37:56.282
<BOBBY>But you could at least see where somebody's coming from on a daily basis.
00:37:56.282 --> 00:37:57.122
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:37:57.122 --> 00:37:57.522
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:37:57.522 --> 00:38:14.142
<BOBBY>It's like, you know, not to say anything crazy, but it's like, oh, yeah, if you were a retired race car driver, you know, like, what does your life look like after you get done doing the thing and you get into the monotony of just being alive?
00:38:14.142 --> 00:38:20.042
<BOBBY>Or, I don't know, a retired football player that doesn't have a whole lot going on, you know?
00:38:20.042 --> 00:38:24.442
<BOBBY>Maybe they didn't have a family or they've lost all their money or something like that.
00:38:24.442 --> 00:38:27.022
<BOBBY>And it shows what their lives have become.
00:38:27.022 --> 00:38:33.842
<BOBBY>It's real for some people, but for some other people, it's like that's so far away from what I can even comprehend as a reality.
00:38:34.362 --> 00:38:35.262
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:38:35.262 --> 00:38:38.042
<ASHLEY>And that's, I think that's why I liked it.
00:38:38.042 --> 00:38:41.342
<BOBBY>Well, another Microsode in the books.
00:38:41.342 --> 00:38:42.762
<BOBBY>There it is.
00:38:42.762 --> 00:38:44.802
<BOBBY>And so I had a blast.
00:38:44.802 --> 00:38:46.542
<ASHLEY>Another Microsode in the can.
00:38:46.642 --> 00:38:47.942
<ASHLEY>Isn't that what you said before?
00:38:47.942 --> 00:38:50.802
<BOBBY>Yeah, it was because that's what they call it in the movies.
00:38:50.802 --> 00:38:52.382
<ASHLEY>That's so smart.
00:38:52.382 --> 00:38:53.562
<ASHLEY>I mean, I didn't know.
00:38:53.562 --> 00:38:55.222
<BOBBY>Well, there you go.
00:38:55.222 --> 00:38:59.802
<BOBBY>Maybe you learn something educational every now and again on this podcast.
00:38:59.802 --> 00:39:01.622
<ASHLEY>Yes, including the movie facts.
00:39:02.342 --> 00:39:07.042
<BOBBY>Yeah, and stuff about that goes on with the movie as well.
00:39:07.042 --> 00:39:08.262
<ASHLEY>So true.
00:39:09.282 --> 00:39:13.722
<BOBBY>Well, once again, thank you guys very much for tuning in.
00:39:13.722 --> 00:39:17.142
<BOBBY>Thank you for all of your comments and downloads.
00:39:17.142 --> 00:39:18.482
<ASHLEY>Thank you.
00:39:18.482 --> 00:39:24.062
<BOBBY>And emails and all the other wonderful things that you guys do to support us.
00:39:24.062 --> 00:39:27.482
<BOBBY>So I think that's it for tonight.
00:39:27.482 --> 00:39:28.902
<ASHLEY>I think so.
00:39:28.902 --> 00:39:29.302
<BOBBY>Awesome.
00:39:29.682 --> 00:39:33.982
<BOBBY>Well, we'll see you next time on another episode of MICROSODES.
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One Battle After Another (2025) Extended
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<BOBBY>This episode contains spoilers.
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<ASHLEY>Check out our spoiler-free episode in the list of episodes.
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<BOBBY>Whoa, this is out of control.
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<ASHLEY>Maybe it's because they use two different kinds of alcohol.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>So they thought, you can't do this.
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<ASHLEY>Little did they know, society would challenge that.
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<BOBBY>Little did they know, we would make a thousand types of alcohol and mix them all together.
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<ASHLEY>And what have you got?
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<BOBBY>Bippity boppity, you're going to blow your shoes off.
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<BOBBY>All right, another Microsode.
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<BOBBY>I'm so excited for this one.
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<ASHLEY>Me too.
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<BOBBY>Do you wanna tell everybody what we watched and what they're gonna be hearing about today?
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<ASHLEY>Yes, I hope you're having a great day so far.
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<BOBBY>Absolutely.
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<ASHLEY>And I hope it's not a battle, because the movie we're discussing today is just One Battle After Another.
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<BOBBY>Oh, nice.
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<ASHLEY>I made it up right now, so it was probably really stupid.
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<BOBBY>The title of the movie?
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<BOBBY>No, that's the title.
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<ASHLEY>No, everything I said before that.
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<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
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<BOBBY>Well, that's...
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<BOBBY>The randomness is what makes it so entertaining and exciting.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, good.
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<ASHLEY>I hope you listeners out there agree, too.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, it does.
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<BOBBY>Some days, it feels like a battle just to exist.
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<BOBBY>Some days, it feels like a battle to go to work or go to the gym or eat healthy or do anything other than lay on the couch like a slug.
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<ASHLEY>Eat bon-bons all day.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>But that's the reason why you got to pick and choose your battles.
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<BOBBY>It's just one battle after another.
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<ASHLEY>That's so true.
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<BOBBY>So there you go.
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<BOBBY>Well, as Ashley eluded to, we are discussing one battle after another.
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<BOBBY>And I don't want this MICROSODE to be as long as the movie.
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<BOBBY>So I think I'm going to jump right into the movie details.
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<BOBBY>Perfect.
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<ASHLEY>That's a great idea.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So I'm going to give you guys the movie details.
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<BOBBY>The movie name is One Battle After Another, as Ashley eluded to.
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<BOBBY>The release date was September 26th of 2025.
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<BOBBY>The genre.
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<BOBBY>Now, they had a bunch of different genres, but just like we said, we are only doing three.
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<BOBBY>So action epic, political thriller and dark comedy.
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<ASHLEY>Nice.
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<BOBBY>It has a runtime of two hours and 41 minutes.
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<BOBBY>It's rated R for pervasive language, violence, sexual content, and drug use, which there's a lot of all of those things.
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<BOBBY>So it's definitely deserved to R rating.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>The director was Paul Thomas Anderson, and he's directed a few things.
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<BOBBY>If you don't know about him, he directed There Will Be Blood, The Master, Boogie Nights, and Punch Drunk Love, among many other things.
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<BOBBY>And a fun fact, he's married to Maya Rudolph.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, nice.
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<BOBBY>They've been married, I think it said, since 2001.
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<ASHLEY>That is awesome.
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<ASHLEY>I like when I see couples married for that long.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Good for them, especially in Hollywood.
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<BOBBY>I'm sure it's probably pretty difficult.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>You chose right or you evolved with each other.
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<BOBBY>Very true.
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<ASHLEY>Co-evolution instead of like evolving on your own and just getting more separate from each other after you're married.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>A long time.
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<BOBBY>Is that the reason why they call it separated?
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<BOBBY>Like when people get separated because they're splitting up and evolving independently?
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<ASHLEY>Probably.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>But some people stay together and that's where issues start.
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<BOBBY>That's true.
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<ASHLEY>Issues will arise if you evolve separately than your partner.
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<BOBBY>That's right.
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<BOBBY>You better fight one battle after another for that marriage.
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>It's just one battle after another.
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<BOBBY>That's it.
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<ASHLEY>Pick your battles.
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<BOBBY>Pick them.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So these are the platforms that you can watch the movie on with currently, free with subscription, obviously.
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<BOBBY>HBO Max, Hulu, Disney+, Amazon Prime Video, Sling TV, and the Roku Channel.
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<BOBBY>If you don't have any of those subscriptions, you can pay $6.99 to rent the movie on either Apple TV+, Google Play Movies, or Fandango at Home.
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<BOBBY>And those are your movie details.
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<ASHLEY>Outstanding.
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<BOBBY>Thank you.
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<BOBBY>I appreciate that.
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<ASHLEY>Would you like to take us on to Ashley's Take?
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<ASHLEY>I know you were very interested in working on a song, and I'm going to be very open to whatever you sing today.
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<BOBBY>Well, I appreciate you saying that.
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<BOBBY>I didn't come with a song today, but I guess I can.
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<BOBBY>It's Ashley's Takes, it's time for Ashley's Takes on the trailer, it's time for Ashley's Takes, it's time for Takes on the trailer, it's Ashley's Takes.
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<BOBBY>Take it away.
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<ASHLEY>Thank you for that superb song, entry song, and no, what is it, theme song?
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<BOBBY>Sure, I mean-
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<ASHLEY>I loved it.
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<BOBBY>It's something all right.
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<BOBBY>I think we will just keep trying.
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<ASHLEY>Or it could be our thing that we just sing a new song every day.
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<ASHLEY>Or no, not every day, but every Microsoft.
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<BOBBY>I mean, we could try.
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<BOBBY>I don't know.
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<BOBBY>It's very-
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<BOBBY>it's kind of embarrassing for me to do that.
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<BOBBY>So-
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<ASHLEY>Oh, yeah, you did it once and we just marketed off of that.
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<ASHLEY>Not marketed.
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<ASHLEY>We just-
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>So it's not-
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<BOBBY>I don't believe that I have a good voice myself.
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<BOBBY>So like trying to sing repeatedly on shows, I don't think that's a great idea.
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<ASHLEY>Luckily, it's just a jingle.
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<ASHLEY>It's not a whole song.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, it's not a jangle.
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<ASHLEY>And they're your own creations.
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<ASHLEY>So you don't have to worry about singing on tune, singing the right tune, singing on key.
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<BOBBY>Right, but if somebody like turned this into some kind of meme that had this song on it-
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<ASHLEY>Oh, like me.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>I could put all of your different Ashley's Take songs together into one episode and then we can pick which one we like best.
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<BOBBY>I don't think we should subject these people to it, but sure.
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<BOBBY>I mean, we could definitely do that in the privacy of our own home.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, maybe I'll save it for me.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Just for laughs.
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<BOBBY>Just for JFL.
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<BOBBY>There you go.
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<ASHLEY>Sorry.
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<BOBBY>I loved it.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So with that, take it away.
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<ASHLEY>So for Ashley's Take on the trailer of the movie, One Battle After Another, here it goes.
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<BOBBY>Fire away.
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<ASHLEY>A former revolutionary attempts to live a normal life with his daughter, but that proves to be much harder said than done when each day brings another battle to overcome.
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<ASHLEY>End of Ashley's Take.
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<BOBBY>Wow.
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<BOBBY>It's pretty imaginative.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I mean, I guess that's what you get out of the trailer, so that's pretty cool.
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<ASHLEY>I remember we first saw this trailer in the movie theater.
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<ASHLEY>I think it was when we saw Conjuring Last Rites.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>And I remember seeing the trailer thinking, that looks like a very interesting movie I'd want to see.
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<ASHLEY>And by the end of the trailer, I thought, what the hell is that about?
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<ASHLEY>You have no clue.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>So after watching the trailer in the theater, I thought it was going to be about, like, someone who lives in America, their life, just like on a daily basis.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>Not until I watched it again after we saw the movie, did I realize, oh, there's like a whole story in the trailer.
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<ASHLEY>I just didn't really understand it.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>Maybe the trailer was so long that I forgot what the beginning of the trailer was by the time I saw the end.
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<BOBBY>I don't blame you.
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<BOBBY>It was a pretty long trailer.
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<ASHLEY>You don't get a lot out of the trailer for this one.
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<BOBBY>No.
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<ASHLEY>You know it's action.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>And drama.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>And that's it.
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<BOBBY>Well, I mean, that's pretty much what the genre was, so you did a pretty good job.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, good.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<BOBBY>So this is the IMDb synopsis.
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<BOBBY>When their evil enemy resurfaces, after 16 years, a group of ex-revolutionaries reunite to rescue the daughter of one of their own.
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<BOBBY>End of synopsis.
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<ASHLEY>That's a much better synopsis than I thought it was going to be about.
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<BOBBY>Oh, good.
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<ASHLEY>After watching the movie, if you haven't seen this, his synopsis is what you'd want to follow.
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<ASHLEY>You would not want to follow mine.
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<ASHLEY>It is not just an average story about a family that lives in America.
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<ASHLEY>There's a lot going on in this.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, well, that's not what you said.
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<BOBBY>You said the first time you saw it, that's what you thought.
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<BOBBY>But when you watched it again, you understood a lot more about it.
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<ASHLEY>But that's only after I watched the movie.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, but you hadn't seen.
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<BOBBY>I mean, you could have watched the trailer again before you watched the movie.
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<BOBBY>And maybe that's what we'll do moving forward.
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<ASHLEY>So that would have been a long time before I saw the movie after we saw the trailer.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<BOBBY>I mean, that makes that makes a ton of sense, then.
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<BOBBY>Well, with that, you want to jump into those cold, hard movie facts?
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<ASHLEY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>So my first movie fact, I hope you don't have this one.
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<BOBBY>OK, fingers crossed.
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<ASHLEY>Is that One Battle After Another was inspired by the novel Vineland by Thomas Pynchon, but it was like loosely translated.
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<ASHLEY>So it incorporates not the specific storyline and timeline, but the theme, tone, and political undercurrents such as government power and surveillance, disillusionment after political movements fail, people aging out of rebellion and into exhaustion.
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<ASHLEY>It modernizes and reshapes these ideas into a more character-focused story.
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<ASHLEY>Because I guess that novel was very, there was a lot going on.
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<BOBBY>In the novel?
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>So this just picks up the theme.
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<ASHLEY>It's kind of like if you're watching Marvel and it's a universe, it just like is another story in that universe.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, I saw that there was a lot when I was looking for Movie Facts 2.
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<BOBBY>It was inspired by that.
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<BOBBY>There's also a couple of poems that one of the movements had.
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<BOBBY>There was also some inspiration from, according to them, and I'm not, I didn't read it.
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<BOBBY>So please don't judge me on this.
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<BOBBY>But it said a liberal and democratic society at some college.
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<BOBBY>Somebody had submitted this and some of the writing was taken out of there.
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<BOBBY>And they used two phrases from that in the movie as well.
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<ASHLEY>That is so cool.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I just did a little bit of research on it because there's a lot of historical stuff that it references.
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<BOBBY>And so I was like, wow, this is a lot of, it's a lot more interesting, but it's also a huge deep dive in trying to figure out all that stuff.
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<BOBBY>It like reminded me sort of like Sinners, where it was just like, oh, you had to go down this smoke and stack and who that guy was and where they came up with this idea.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>And it's so interesting because both of these movies are up for Academy Awards or Oscars.
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<BOBBY>Is that what it is?
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>So they're up for Golden Globes, Oscars and Academy Awards, which I think the Academy Awards aren't those just the Oscars, but you get an Oscar.
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<ASHLEY>At the Academy Awards?
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<BOBBY>Yeah, I think so.
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<ASHLEY>For movie hosts, we don't know a lot about awards season, but we do like watching movies.
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<BOBBY>That's true.
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<BOBBY>I mean, I guess the next time that we bring this up, maybe we could do a little bit more of a deep dive into...
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<ASHLEY>Awards shows?
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>Which awards shows get what?
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<ASHLEY>I just know that the show at the Met is not televised to us poor people.
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<BOBBY>Whoa.
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<BOBBY>Easy, easy.
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<BOBBY>You don't have to say that.
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<ASHLEY>Poor in societal status.
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<BOBBY>Oh, okay.
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<ASHLEY>Poor in status, not in wealth.
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<ASHLEY>I mean, well, you know, average, average people can't go to the Met.
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<ASHLEY>Gala.
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<BOBBY>Oh, yes, I know.
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<BOBBY>We wouldn't be...
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<BOBBY>I don't even know what we'd wear.
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<ASHLEY>Maybe like a burlap sack in a trash bag.
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<ASHLEY>And then I can glue some leaves to myself and say that I'm promoting natural resources, but also showing you the pollution that could happen by having so much trash.
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<ASHLEY>And then I could donate money to a charity of my choosing.
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<BOBBY>I think that sounds like a very intricate plan.
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<BOBBY>Maybe it's the next Ocean's 14 movie.
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<BOBBY>So I didn't want to leave you guys hanging.
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<BOBBY>We were both correct.
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<BOBBY>The Golden Globes are usually a pretty good barometer for what's going to happen at the Academy Awards.
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<BOBBY>Now, when you win an Academy Award, you get an Oscar.
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<BOBBY>That is what the statue is called.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>So how, why do people, and maybe you haven't looked this up, why do some people say it's the Academy Awards and some people say it's the Oscars?
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<BOBBY>Because it's what you win.
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<ASHLEY>Is it one to, it's the same though?
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>I'll read you the AI overview.
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<BOBBY>This is just what it says online.
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<BOBBY>Yes, the Oscars are the Academy Awards, but Oscars refers specifically to the Golden Statuettes, while Academy Awards or Academy Awards of Merit refers to the Awards show and the Awards themselves, given by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
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<BOBBY>The names are used interchangeably because the nickname Oscar became popular and was later adopted by the Academy, making them essentially the same thing for the public and the industry.
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<BOBBY>And that's it.
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<BOBBY>Hmm.
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<ASHLEY>Interesting.
00:14:48.382 --> 00:14:50.162
<ASHLEY>I did not know that before.
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<ASHLEY>The thing I do know is the Grammys are for music and the Emmys are for television.
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<BOBBY>There you go.
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<ASHLEY>But I thought the Oscars and the Academy Awards were like different things.
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<BOBBY>Well, like they said, it became popular, so they use them interchangeably now.
00:15:05.742 --> 00:15:06.182
<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Interesting.
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<BOBBY>So there you go.
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<BOBBY>That was not my movie fact, but I mean, at least it started a nice conversation.
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<ASHLEY>It did.
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<BOBBY>My first movie fact is that Colonel Lockjaw, played by Sean Penn, his second-in-command and chief interrogator is played by a non-professional actor.
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<BOBBY>His name is James Raderman, and he is, slash was, a security consultant and former Homeland Security Investigations, HSI, special agent.
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<BOBBY>And outside of being in a documentary about something called Trade briefly, this is his first motion picture.
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<ASHLEY>That is very interesting.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>How did they find him?
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<BOBBY>You know, when guys work in that kind of industry, whether you're a special investigator or you are a security consultant, your name gets out there because people on movies want to have stuff that looks like real life.
00:16:07.402 --> 00:16:19.262
<BOBBY>So if you have the continuity people, but you also have professionals that are on stage or on the sets, making sure the fighting looks real, making sure the gun battles look real.
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<BOBBY>And so he was able to bring some authenticity to the character.
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<BOBBY>Now, I don't know if he was just like there as a consultant, and they're like, wow, you're really good at what you do.
00:16:28.482 --> 00:16:31.242
<BOBBY>Why don't you like be in this movie?
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<BOBBY>And he might have just said, sure.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, we need someone else.
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<ASHLEY>He was already the consultant.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>He's like, well, I mean, I have my uniform.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>Cool.
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<BOBBY>I guess so.
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<ASHLEY>Or maybe he was like, my daughter asked, can I be in this movie?
00:16:46.922 --> 00:16:50.142
<ASHLEY>They're like, can you act?
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<ASHLEY>Maybe.
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<ASHLEY>And then he did.
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<ASHLEY>And he said, well, I'm just going to act like real life.
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<ASHLEY>And then it looked even better.
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<ASHLEY>And then they were so glad.
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<ASHLEY>And he is up for supporting actor.
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<BOBBY>He is?
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<ASHLEY>No.
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<BOBBY>Oh.
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<ASHLEY>I don't know.
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<BOBBY>That had been cool.
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<BOBBY>I was like, wow, I didn't need that part.
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<ASHLEY>That was all a fake story.
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<BOBBY>I liked it, though.
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<ASHLEY>Also, yes.
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<ASHLEY>Speaking of, does your movie fact have anything to do with that?
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<ASHLEY>Is your movie fact different?
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<ASHLEY>Your second one?
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<BOBBY>My second movie fact is different from that.
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<ASHLEY>OK.
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<ASHLEY>I found out that Chase Infiniti, who played the daughter Willa.
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<BOBBY>Yes.
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<ASHLEY>This was her first film debut.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:17:26.982 --> 00:17:29.082
<BOBBY>I had that in my acting notes.
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<BOBBY>So that'll come up a little bit later in the show.
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<BOBBY>But yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Cool.
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<ASHLEY>I just thought that was really interesting.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>Because like Sora Wong and like.
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<BOBBY>Chase.
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<ASHLEY>Is that his name?
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<BOBBY>I don't know.
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<ASHLEY>From the last one we saw.
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<BOBBY>I think it's Banks something.
00:17:45.942 --> 00:17:46.422
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:17:46.422 --> 00:17:49.222
<BOBBY>But I don't know if it was Chase Banks or something like that.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, I feel like his first name was probably was.
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<BOBBY>I thought it was Chase Banks or something.
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<ASHLEY>Like the credit card.
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<BOBBY>Yeah, exactly.
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<BOBBY>Exactly.
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<BOBBY>What was his name?
00:18:06.142 --> 00:18:06.982
<ASHLEY>I keep wanting to say.
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<BOBBY>Oh, his name is Banks Pierce.
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<ASHLEY>Banks Pierce.
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<ASHLEY>So being her first film debut, that reminded me of Banks Pierce from Play Day and Sora Wong from Bring Her Back.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I mean, for her to have that as her main first role, she did an excellent job and we'll get into that a little bit later.
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<BOBBY>But yeah, she did a really good job.
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<BOBBY>But no, my second movie fact doesn't have anything to do with that.
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<BOBBY>So I'm very excited to hear what yours may be.
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<ASHLEY>Yay.
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<ASHLEY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>So my second movie fact is that the exterior of the mansion where the Christmas Adventurers Club meets was the home of Ronald Reagan in Sacramento when he was governor of California.
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<BOBBY>Wow.
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<BOBBY>I did not know that.
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<ASHLEY>And I have a bonus fact that relates to the Christmas Adventurers Club as well.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>They had a secret knock.
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<ASHLEY>Do you know what song that knock was based off of?
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<BOBBY>Huh.
00:19:09.862 --> 00:19:11.982
<BOBBY>I know what you're talking about.
00:19:11.982 --> 00:19:15.422
<BOBBY>Was it like Merry Christmas or something?
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<ASHLEY>It was Jingle Bells.
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<BOBBY>Oh, okay.
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<BOBBY>That's pretty cool.
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<ASHLEY>Isn't that interesting?
00:19:20.182 --> 00:19:21.662
<ASHLEY>I knew it sounded familiar.
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<ASHLEY>So when I read that, I thought that has to be what it is.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>I remember specifically that scene because I'm like, oh, that, you know, secret knock, but I didn't, I never would have guessed that's what it was.
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<ASHLEY>No.
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<BOBBY>All right.
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<ASHLEY>And, oh, I just want to mention, just in case people don't know what the Christmas Adventurers Club is, this one is for our Spoiler-Free fans.
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<ASHLEY>The Christmas Adventurers Club is a powerful secret society of people who go after other people and take their lives when they deem it's necessary.
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<BOBBY>Oh, okay.
00:20:00.302 --> 00:20:12.082
<ASHLEY>For the extended version with spoilers, the Christmas Adventurers Club is a powerful secret society of white supremacists who hunt down and kill people they deem impure.
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<BOBBY>You looked that up?
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<BOBBY>That's what it was?
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<ASHLEY>No, it was on the Wikipedia page, and I didn't go to the Wikipedia page, but it came up in my search results, and I was like, oh, that's interesting.
00:20:21.402 --> 00:20:22.302
<ASHLEY>So I added it.
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<BOBBY>There you go.
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<ASHLEY>Just in case anyone cared.
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<BOBBY>I mean, I thought it was pretty straightforward what they were doing in the movies.
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<BOBBY>I didn't think I would look it up, but that makes sense.
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<ASHLEY>You mean after if they've already watched the movie.
00:20:34.402 --> 00:20:35.182
<ASHLEY>Right.
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<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>So my second fact is that a French 75, which was the name of the revolutionaries in this movie, is a cocktail made from gin, champagne, lemon juice, and sugar.
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<BOBBY>It was named due to having a kick that felt like being shelled by a 75-millimeter cannon that the French used in both World Wars.
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<BOBBY>So that was why they named it a French 75.
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<ASHLEY>Have you had a French 75?
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<BOBBY>No, have you?
00:21:03.782 --> 00:21:05.482
<ASHLEY>I think I had one.
00:21:05.482 --> 00:21:08.942
<ASHLEY>I remember when I first heard about this in bartending class.
00:21:08.942 --> 00:21:10.862
<ASHLEY>I went to bartending class several years ago.
00:21:10.862 --> 00:21:16.782
<ASHLEY>No, I'm not a bartender, but anyway, we'll get into jobs much later in this podcast.
00:21:16.802 --> 00:21:17.302
<BOBBY>Another day.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah, a story for another maybe.
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<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>I remember hearing about it because I like gin and obviously, well, not obviously, I like champagne and lemon and sugar is always good because I love lemon drop martinis.
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<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>It just sounded so good to me.
00:21:35.322 --> 00:21:40.822
<ASHLEY>So either someone had it because I knew one of the girls at my last job loved those.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>So I either had one or I had a taste of one and it was very good.
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<BOBBY>Oh, so it didn't feel like you're getting shelled by a huge cannon from World Wars 1 and 2.
00:21:53.362 --> 00:21:54.902
<ASHLEY>Maybe I had a taste then.
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<BOBBY>I mean, maybe they just made it and they called it that from back then.
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<BOBBY>But like if they would have had like an AMF or something now, people would be like, whoa, this is out of control.
00:22:06.422 --> 00:22:08.882
<ASHLEY>Maybe it's because they use two different kinds of alcohol.
00:22:08.962 --> 00:22:09.782
<BOBBY>Right.
00:22:09.782 --> 00:22:12.342
<ASHLEY>So they thought, oh, my gosh, you can't do this.
00:22:12.342 --> 00:22:16.862
<ASHLEY>Little did they know society would challenge that.
00:22:16.862 --> 00:22:24.382
<BOBBY>Little did they know that we would have incredibly, we would make a thousand types of alcohol and mix them all together.
00:22:24.382 --> 00:22:26.782
<ASHLEY>And what have you got?
00:22:26.782 --> 00:22:29.582
<BOBBY>Bippity boppity, you're going to blow your shoes off.
00:22:32.502 --> 00:22:39.842
<BOBBY>Try doing like the three wise men or some of the other things that are out there or car bomb or whatever else.
00:22:39.842 --> 00:22:41.242
<BOBBY>It's like, holy smokes.
00:22:41.242 --> 00:22:42.902
<BOBBY>Some of the stuff that people come up with.
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<ASHLEY>Right.
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<BOBBY>Well, that was my final fact that I guess you disputed because he said, no, I think it was pretty good.
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<BOBBY>It didn't feel like getting shelled by a giant cannon.
00:22:52.722 --> 00:22:55.082
<BOBBY>So I don't know why they named it that then.
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<BOBBY>Maybe they should have gotten over themselves.
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<ASHLEY>I agree.
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<ASHLEY>Or maybe their gin was as strong as Everclear or moonshine.
00:23:02.342 --> 00:23:03.062
<BOBBY>Oh, right.
00:23:03.062 --> 00:23:04.862
<BOBBY>Because it's probably made into bathtub.
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<ASHLEY>Oh, yes.
00:23:06.362 --> 00:23:07.882
<ASHLEY>I don't know what time they created it.
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<BOBBY>So 8.15.
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<ASHLEY>8.15?
00:23:11.222 --> 00:23:12.002
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
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<BOBBY>If you've seen the movie, that's a joke for you.
00:23:14.002 --> 00:23:15.502
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:23:15.502 --> 00:23:21.682
<ASHLEY>At the payphone with the glasses right after he wears the glasses from the store.
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<ASHLEY>Just in case anyone did see the movie and forgets where they saw it.
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<BOBBY>No, he says 8.15 when he and Benicio Del Toro are in that house with that crazy phone.
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<ASHLEY>Fuck.
00:23:32.702 --> 00:23:33.822
<ASHLEY>You're right.
00:23:33.822 --> 00:23:37.942
<ASHLEY>Outside of the payphone is the first time he asked, what time is it?
00:23:37.942 --> 00:23:38.522
<BOBBY>Right.
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<ASHLEY>I got it wrong.
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<ASHLEY>Ignore me.
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<BOBBY>You're doing an excellent job.
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<ASHLEY>Thanks.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<BOBBY>So those were some cold, hard movie facts coming right at you.
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<ASHLEY>And now, let's get into this review.
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<BOBBY>Whoa.
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<BOBBY>Okay.
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<ASHLEY>This movie started with me feeling very confused.
00:24:05.282 --> 00:24:05.762
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:24:05.762 --> 00:24:11.402
<ASHLEY>So I wrote down kind of my impressions of my mood throughout the movie.
00:24:11.402 --> 00:24:20.122
<ASHLEY>So while I was watching this movie, I wrote down different emotions that I felt throughout the movie at different points.
00:24:20.122 --> 00:24:21.362
<BOBBY>That's an interesting way to do it.
00:24:21.362 --> 00:24:24.742
<ASHLEY>I feel like I felt so many different emotions.
00:24:25.262 --> 00:24:38.022
<ASHLEY>So my first, confused, then disgusted, and then confused, and then interested, and then like, oh, okay.
00:24:38.022 --> 00:24:42.142
<BOBBY>And then it just keeps, then it's finally like you got caught up in this world.
00:24:42.142 --> 00:24:42.582
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:24:42.582 --> 00:24:49.702
<ASHLEY>So then it was confusion through confusion with disgusted in the middle.
00:24:49.762 --> 00:24:50.382
<BOBBY>Yeah.
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<ASHLEY>All happened in the course of 45 minutes.
00:24:52.622 --> 00:25:00.322
<ASHLEY>Then you have an hour and a half of interesting in the last five minutes where you're like, oh, okay.
00:25:00.322 --> 00:25:01.982
<BOBBY>Exactly.
00:25:01.982 --> 00:25:02.622
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:25:02.622 --> 00:25:04.522
<BOBBY>I'm kind of right there with you.
00:25:04.522 --> 00:25:13.782
<BOBBY>I usually like to shoot off the cuff or talk in generalities, but I'm going to read what I wrote because I think it's pretty close to what you were talking about.
00:25:13.782 --> 00:25:14.522
<ASHLEY>Okay.
00:25:14.522 --> 00:25:17.582
<BOBBY>So there is a ton of nuance in any window throughout this story.
00:25:18.062 --> 00:25:29.802
<BOBBY>The movie seemingly leaves a lot to the imagination with the characters' backgrounds and with specific points that they want to make, which they are okay leaving up to the viewer.
00:25:29.802 --> 00:25:37.882
<BOBBY>I like that in certain aspects, they leave it up to the imagination, but there are a few loose ends and I would have enjoyed getting closures or answers to them.
00:25:37.882 --> 00:25:39.222
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:25:39.222 --> 00:25:41.302
<ASHLEY>I think that's pretty accurate to me too.
00:25:41.302 --> 00:25:42.642
<ASHLEY>I do agree with that.
00:25:42.642 --> 00:25:42.802
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:25:42.802 --> 00:25:49.602
<BOBBY>I think the story overall, like you said, the first 45 minutes are tough to get through.
00:25:49.602 --> 00:25:50.662
<ASHLEY>They really are.
00:25:50.662 --> 00:25:55.442
<BOBBY>And that isn't us saying that, like to scare you away from the movie.
00:25:55.442 --> 00:26:01.122
<BOBBY>It's just if you have to go into this movie with no expectations.
00:26:01.122 --> 00:26:01.762
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:26:01.762 --> 00:26:06.882
<BOBBY>And then just watch it for what it is and get through the first like half an hour.
00:26:06.882 --> 00:26:09.222
<BOBBY>And then after that, it really picks up.
00:26:09.222 --> 00:26:09.622
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:26:09.622 --> 00:26:12.102
<ASHLEY>I might even say like 50 minutes.
00:26:12.102 --> 00:26:12.322
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:26:15.182 --> 00:26:22.662
<ASHLEY>This is a movie where you don't know how good the movie is until after you've watched the entire thing.
00:26:22.662 --> 00:26:27.702
<ASHLEY>You cannot rate it from the first 15 minutes or even the first half hour.
00:26:27.702 --> 00:26:33.502
<ASHLEY>You can't, or hour to be honest, you literally have to watch the entire thing.
00:26:33.502 --> 00:26:40.282
<ASHLEY>And then when you soak it in and you think about it as a whole, then you realize how good it is.
00:26:40.462 --> 00:26:44.162
<BOBBY>Yes, that's a great way to put it.
00:26:44.162 --> 00:26:46.882
<BOBBY>I couldn't have said it any better myself because I didn't.
00:26:46.882 --> 00:26:49.842
<BOBBY>No, that's a really, really good way of putting it.
00:26:49.842 --> 00:26:53.602
<BOBBY>And it is a very interesting story overall.
00:26:53.602 --> 00:26:57.702
<BOBBY>But yeah, it's like you got to, what do they say, you got to eat the frog first or whatever.
00:26:57.702 --> 00:26:58.142
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:26:58.142 --> 00:27:02.562
<BOBBY>You just got to get through that first little bit because there is definitely a time.
00:27:02.562 --> 00:27:05.882
<BOBBY>We watch it in two separate pieces like what we're saying.
00:27:05.882 --> 00:27:09.962
<BOBBY>Like 30 minutes in you're like, I don't know if I really want to continue with this.
00:27:09.962 --> 00:27:10.702
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:27:10.702 --> 00:27:12.442
<ASHLEY>We were dreading watching it.
00:27:12.442 --> 00:27:16.862
<ASHLEY>The only reason why we stopped the first time was because we started it too late.
00:27:17.322 --> 00:27:18.282
<ASHLEY>The night.
00:27:18.282 --> 00:27:23.542
<ASHLEY>But then we had to watch the, I think we watched until like 49 minutes or something.
00:27:23.542 --> 00:27:26.222
<ASHLEY>And I did not want to watch anymore.
00:27:26.222 --> 00:27:26.722
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:27:26.722 --> 00:27:35.942
<ASHLEY>So once we got past that, we started watching the rest and it was so good at the, like you just have to get through it.
00:27:35.942 --> 00:27:36.222
<BOBBY>Right.
00:27:36.402 --> 00:27:41.342
<ASHLEY>Because it's, it's about the art of the movie.
00:27:41.342 --> 00:27:45.782
<ASHLEY>It's not, oh, this is a wonderful story that I enjoy watching.
00:27:45.782 --> 00:27:49.822
<ASHLEY>It's more of like, wow, this is like real life.
00:27:49.822 --> 00:27:53.842
<ASHLEY>It's like you took a step into someone's real life.
00:27:53.842 --> 00:27:54.882
<BOBBY>Right.
00:27:54.882 --> 00:27:56.622
<ASHLEY>That's why you have to watch the whole thing.
00:27:56.662 --> 00:28:07.582
<ASHLEY>Because you need to see the evolution of like struggles and then wins and struggles and wins throughout the whole thing and see it as a whole.
00:28:07.582 --> 00:28:07.922
<BOBBY>Right.
00:28:07.922 --> 00:28:16.442
<ASHLEY>So I even saw a lot of reviews saying, oh, this was, I walked out of the theater 45 minutes in.
00:28:16.442 --> 00:28:20.682
<ASHLEY>And now after seeing the whole movie, I wish they stayed.
00:28:20.682 --> 00:28:21.082
<BOBBY>Right.
00:28:21.082 --> 00:28:24.682
<ASHLEY>But I don't blame them if they wanted to walk out.
00:28:24.742 --> 00:28:27.282
<ASHLEY>Because that first 45 minutes was tough.
00:28:27.282 --> 00:28:27.802
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:28:27.802 --> 00:28:32.122
<ASHLEY>So when I saw people say, I turned it off after 40 minutes, I'm like, oh no.
00:28:32.122 --> 00:28:33.502
<BOBBY>So you missed the best part.
00:28:33.502 --> 00:28:33.802
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:28:33.802 --> 00:28:36.602
<ASHLEY>It like gets so interesting right after that.
00:28:36.602 --> 00:28:38.862
<ASHLEY>When it says 15 years later, then it starts.
00:28:38.862 --> 00:28:39.102
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:28:39.102 --> 00:28:44.482
<ASHLEY>Then that was just to get you familiar with the characters.
00:28:44.482 --> 00:28:46.602
<BOBBY>And only some of them and only a little bit.
00:28:46.602 --> 00:28:48.122
<ASHLEY>And only a little bit.
00:28:48.122 --> 00:28:49.122
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:28:49.122 --> 00:28:53.222
<ASHLEY>I think it was they put the stuff at the beginning to give you a feeling.
00:28:54.262 --> 00:28:54.822
<BOBBY>Yes.
00:28:54.822 --> 00:28:58.382
<ASHLEY>Which brings me to characters and acting.
00:28:58.382 --> 00:29:06.922
<ASHLEY>If we didn't see the first 45 minutes of the movie, I don't think my feelings would have been that intense for Perfidia.
00:29:06.922 --> 00:29:07.902
<BOBBY>Oh, right.
00:29:07.902 --> 00:29:09.542
<ASHLEY>I didn't like the character.
00:29:09.542 --> 00:29:22.242
<ASHLEY>And if we didn't see her in all of those scenes, I don't think I would have the negative emotion associated with that character as I did while watching the movie.
00:29:22.562 --> 00:29:22.742
<BOBBY>Yes.
00:29:22.742 --> 00:29:32.782
<ASHLEY>So if we didn't watch it, even if we skip to the forward, you have to see that first to get that deep emotion that grounds you in the movie.
00:29:32.782 --> 00:29:34.802
<BOBBY>Yes, I agree.
00:29:34.802 --> 00:29:37.902
<BOBBY>Yeah, I completely agree.
00:29:37.902 --> 00:29:43.642
<ASHLEY>And I think all of the acting too was so real.
00:29:43.642 --> 00:29:44.062
<BOBBY>Right.
00:29:44.062 --> 00:29:50.422
<ASHLEY>I also read that it must have been the director decided that it was better for them to underreact than overreact.
00:29:50.482 --> 00:29:55.882
<ASHLEY>So he got more of a real expression of emotion.
00:29:55.882 --> 00:30:00.162
<ASHLEY>And the actors did a fantastic job with that.
00:30:00.162 --> 00:30:04.782
<BOBBY>Yeah, I thought all of the main actors were incredible.
00:30:04.782 --> 00:30:10.182
<BOBBY>And then to your point, the young lady that was played by Chase Infiniti.
00:30:10.182 --> 00:30:11.422
<ASHLEY>Oh, yeah.
00:30:11.422 --> 00:30:12.542
<ASHLEY>Willa.
00:30:12.642 --> 00:30:17.482
<BOBBY>She did an awesome, awesome job for it being her first, like, on screen.
00:30:17.482 --> 00:30:29.902
<BOBBY>I thought Leo did an incredible job of just being like what I guess it would mean to be a former revolutionary and be paranoid about everything.
00:30:29.902 --> 00:30:30.842
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:30:30.842 --> 00:30:31.662
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:30:31.662 --> 00:30:35.242
<ASHLEY>And he smokes weed and drinks alcohol.
00:30:35.242 --> 00:30:37.262
<ASHLEY>And he says it in the movie.
00:30:37.262 --> 00:30:38.582
<ASHLEY>Like, this is me.
00:30:38.582 --> 00:30:39.502
<ASHLEY>This is what I did.
00:30:39.622 --> 00:30:45.662
<ASHLEY>Like, I raised a daughter and went to work and, you know, had to deal with life.
00:30:45.842 --> 00:30:49.122
<ASHLEY>That's like, you go and you do all this stuff.
00:30:49.122 --> 00:30:58.262
<ASHLEY>And then just like based off of that novel, the disillusionment of everything you're doing, it's kind of like, oh, well, nothing's going to change.
00:30:58.262 --> 00:30:59.542
<ASHLEY>This is what it is now.
00:30:59.542 --> 00:30:59.822
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:30:59.822 --> 00:31:03.862
<ASHLEY>Like nothing, you know, you're 20s, you're new and you're excited.
00:31:03.862 --> 00:31:05.242
<ASHLEY>Even you're 30s.
00:31:05.242 --> 00:31:05.502
<BOBBY>Right.
00:31:05.502 --> 00:31:06.962
<ASHLEY>Oh, I can make a change.
00:31:06.962 --> 00:31:07.802
<ASHLEY>I can do this.
00:31:08.202 --> 00:31:11.222
<ASHLEY>And then you realize, you sink with that feeling.
00:31:11.222 --> 00:31:16.322
<ASHLEY>Oh, so many people have tried and so many people are continuing to try and we're moving backwards.
00:31:16.322 --> 00:31:17.922
<ASHLEY>That's very interesting.
00:31:17.922 --> 00:31:27.842
<ASHLEY>So I'm just going to give up and just live the most boring, basic life because it's, it feels like the disillusionment of power.
00:31:27.842 --> 00:31:28.042
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:31:28.042 --> 00:31:29.942
<BOBBY>I could definitely see where you're coming from.
00:31:29.942 --> 00:31:33.082
<BOBBY>And I think he really encapsulated that character.
00:31:33.082 --> 00:31:34.742
<BOBBY>Sean Penn did an awesome job.
00:31:34.842 --> 00:31:38.842
<BOBBY>I'm sure he's going to be up for a bunch of stuff for Colonel Lockjaw.
00:31:38.842 --> 00:31:40.382
<ASHLEY>I think he's nominated.
00:31:40.382 --> 00:31:40.842
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:31:40.882 --> 00:31:41.722
<BOBBY>I mean, he should be.
00:31:41.722 --> 00:31:44.122
<BOBBY>And then Benicio Del Toro was awesome.
00:31:44.122 --> 00:31:44.482
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:31:44.482 --> 00:31:48.382
<BOBBY>That was a kind of like a smaller role or not.
00:31:48.382 --> 00:31:51.322
<BOBBY>He wasn't on screen for that long, it didn't feel like.
00:31:51.322 --> 00:31:54.482
<BOBBY>Maybe he's on screen for a lot longer than what I remembered.
00:31:54.482 --> 00:31:56.942
<BOBBY>Sensei.
00:31:56.942 --> 00:31:58.482
<ASHLEY>That was his name in the movie.
00:31:58.542 --> 00:31:58.662
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:31:58.662 --> 00:32:00.262
<BOBBY>That's just what they call him.
00:32:00.262 --> 00:32:00.962
<BOBBY>Right.
00:32:00.962 --> 00:32:08.742
<BOBBY>But I think he also just kind of stole the show with the way that he took over those scenes.
00:32:08.742 --> 00:32:09.102
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:32:09.102 --> 00:32:10.262
<BOBBY>He was so interesting.
00:32:10.262 --> 00:32:11.742
<ASHLEY>I completely agree.
00:32:11.742 --> 00:32:19.322
<BOBBY>Because it was like watching Yen and Yang, you have one character that's freaking out and the other character that's just going about business like, OK, this is life.
00:32:19.322 --> 00:32:20.102
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:32:20.102 --> 00:32:21.622
<ASHLEY>He was calm.
00:32:21.622 --> 00:32:24.562
<ASHLEY>He was collected, but he was doing things.
00:32:24.562 --> 00:32:26.102
<ASHLEY>He was getting things done.
00:32:26.502 --> 00:32:27.062
<BOBBY>Exactly.
00:32:27.062 --> 00:32:28.922
<ASHLEY>But calmly.
00:32:28.922 --> 00:32:29.102
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:32:29.102 --> 00:32:30.602
<BOBBY>Ocean waves, ocean waves.
00:32:30.602 --> 00:32:32.542
<BOBBY>Everyone just relax.
00:32:32.542 --> 00:32:36.302
<BOBBY>And then, yeah, I just thought he did an incredible job.
00:32:36.302 --> 00:32:41.962
<BOBBY>The other characters and the people that they used to underact, it was very, you can tell.
00:32:41.962 --> 00:32:42.682
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:32:42.682 --> 00:32:48.742
<BOBBY>You can absolutely tell because you're like, oh, that's not great acting.
00:32:48.742 --> 00:32:49.402
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:32:49.402 --> 00:32:52.142
<BOBBY>But I get it because you had mentioned it.
00:32:52.142 --> 00:32:57.022
<BOBBY>So I guess if that's what you're looking for, they succeeded.
00:32:57.022 --> 00:32:57.622
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:32:57.622 --> 00:33:00.882
<ASHLEY>I think the main and supporting characters did a fantastic job.
00:33:00.882 --> 00:33:01.522
<ASHLEY>But you're right.
00:33:01.522 --> 00:33:07.642
<ASHLEY>Some of the tertiary characters, I don't know, were less.
00:33:07.642 --> 00:33:08.302
<ASHLEY>Great.
00:33:08.302 --> 00:33:08.502
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:33:08.502 --> 00:33:11.702
<BOBBY>So I think your assessment kind of lines up with mine.
00:33:11.922 --> 00:33:14.142
<BOBBY>The main characters did an excellent job.
00:33:14.142 --> 00:33:18.202
<BOBBY>Secondary, tertiary characters could have been better.
00:33:18.262 --> 00:33:18.642
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:33:18.642 --> 00:33:27.942
<BOBBY>But I mean, the fact that you looked up that other fact and you knew that he was telling them to under act, that was awesome.
00:33:27.942 --> 00:33:32.782
<BOBBY>So it explains a little bit why there wasn't as much emphasis on those characters.
00:33:32.782 --> 00:33:34.082
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:33:34.082 --> 00:33:38.082
<ASHLEY>And that reminds me of writing a dialogue.
00:33:38.122 --> 00:33:39.282
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:33:39.282 --> 00:33:42.922
<ASHLEY>And the director said that he wanted them to under act.
00:33:43.302 --> 00:33:49.222
<ASHLEY>He also let them know there weren't like precise lines that they had to say.
00:33:49.222 --> 00:33:53.682
<ASHLEY>Like, they had to say, I mean, they obviously had lines.
00:33:53.682 --> 00:33:54.062
<BOBBY>Right.
00:33:54.062 --> 00:33:58.282
<ASHLEY>But it didn't need to be on script, like 100% on script.
00:33:58.282 --> 00:33:58.662
<BOBBY>OK.
00:33:58.662 --> 00:34:02.502
<BOBBY>He gave them a little bit more flexibility in their characters.
00:34:02.502 --> 00:34:10.002
<BOBBY>So he didn't really say, I want you to line for line read this, but this is the generality of the situation in the scene we're in.
00:34:10.002 --> 00:34:10.782
<ASHLEY>I believe so.
00:34:10.782 --> 00:34:11.302
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:34:11.302 --> 00:34:11.462
<BOBBY>OK.
00:34:12.122 --> 00:34:18.262
<ASHLEY>And I think Leo did a fantastic job at just reacting to things.
00:34:18.262 --> 00:34:18.982
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:34:18.982 --> 00:34:26.622
<ASHLEY>He played a nervous dad so well, like so accurately.
00:34:26.622 --> 00:34:31.282
<ASHLEY>I don't think I've seen him in a part like that before.
00:34:31.282 --> 00:34:35.202
<ASHLEY>So I this was so unexpected, but he was amazing.
00:34:35.202 --> 00:34:36.202
<BOBBY>Oh, he was so good.
00:34:38.302 --> 00:34:41.982
<ASHLEY>I've never seen him act this dramatically in a non-hero.
00:34:41.982 --> 00:34:44.382
<ASHLEY>I mean, he is kind of a hero, but not really.
00:34:44.382 --> 00:34:45.882
<ASHLEY>He's like a dad hero.
00:34:45.882 --> 00:34:52.202
<BOBBY>Yeah, I would say if anything, like it almost seems Benicio Del Toro's character is more of a hero than anyone else.
00:34:52.202 --> 00:34:53.202
<BOBBY>Right.
00:34:53.202 --> 00:34:57.522
<BOBBY>So to your point, he's just reacting to the situation that's going on around him.
00:34:57.562 --> 00:34:58.462
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:34:59.562 --> 00:35:04.282
<BOBBY>Yeah, I wrote, I'm just going to read this because it seems a little bit easier.
00:35:04.282 --> 00:35:19.962
<BOBBY>But what I said for writing and dialogue was to see how much of the movie was shaped around newspaper articles, other movies, resistance pieces, and turning that into a cohesive project is incredibly cool and takes a lot of talent.
00:35:19.962 --> 00:35:26.362
<BOBBY>Paul Thomas Anderson wrote and directed the film, and you can see he had a very clear vision of what he wanted to make.
00:35:27.082 --> 00:35:29.522
<BOBBY>And the humor in it also helps a ton.
00:35:29.522 --> 00:35:31.142
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:35:31.142 --> 00:35:38.002
<BOBBY>So that's what I had for writing and dialogue, because I thought he knew exactly what he was looking for.
00:35:38.002 --> 00:35:42.102
<BOBBY>And so that's how he wrote it, to hear that he was letting people have flexibility.
00:35:42.102 --> 00:35:44.462
<BOBBY>I think that's really cool too.
00:35:44.462 --> 00:35:55.242
<ASHLEY>It was such a good combination, like you said, of so many different aspects of real life.
00:35:56.602 --> 00:36:06.902
<ASHLEY>And putting them all together and doing the research and hiring consultants and getting all of this accurate data together and then putting it together around a story.
00:36:06.902 --> 00:36:08.282
<BOBBY>Right.
00:36:08.282 --> 00:36:09.542
<ASHLEY>I completely agree.
00:36:09.542 --> 00:36:18.002
<BOBBY>Yeah, he did a great job of, like you said, pulling from all of those resources and writing something very specific.
00:36:18.002 --> 00:36:18.602
<BOBBY>I don't know.
00:36:18.602 --> 00:36:23.302
<BOBBY>I didn't get that far into it, but he said writing this script took him 20 years.
00:36:23.842 --> 00:36:26.162
<BOBBY>And I don't know what he meant by that specifically.
00:36:26.162 --> 00:36:33.762
<BOBBY>I don't know if it was because he came up with an idea in his mind and then pulled from history and try to make something more modern.
00:36:33.762 --> 00:36:34.462
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:36:34.462 --> 00:36:38.182
<BOBBY>I don't know if maybe it just wasn't the right time in his career to make a movie like that.
00:36:38.182 --> 00:36:41.042
<BOBBY>But I think he did an excellent job with the writing and dialogue.
00:36:41.042 --> 00:36:46.222
<BOBBY>And there's a lot of funny stuff in it, too, which I wouldn't expect with something so dramatic.
00:36:46.222 --> 00:36:48.142
<ASHLEY>It's so true.
00:36:48.142 --> 00:36:51.882
<ASHLEY>And by Leo's reactions are also very funny.
00:36:51.942 --> 00:36:52.602
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:36:52.602 --> 00:36:59.242
<ASHLEY>But I really liked the humor in the small things, like the Christmas Adventurers Club.
00:36:59.262 --> 00:36:59.802
<BOBBY>Oh, yeah.
00:36:59.802 --> 00:37:06.222
<ASHLEY>Which basically seems to describe my feelings of racist groups.
00:37:06.222 --> 00:37:06.482
<BOBBY>OK.
00:37:06.482 --> 00:37:09.582
<ASHLEY>Just kind of like a joke.
00:37:09.582 --> 00:37:11.382
<ASHLEY>That's a fucking joke.
00:37:11.382 --> 00:37:16.622
<ASHLEY>Well, like, who like, why would anyone feel like they're superior?
00:37:16.622 --> 00:37:18.382
<ASHLEY>And that's a whole other thing.
00:37:18.402 --> 00:37:19.762
<BOBBY>Let's not go down that off ramp.
00:37:19.942 --> 00:37:22.582
<BOBBY>We just know that it exists in the world.
00:37:22.582 --> 00:37:24.882
<ASHLEY>I love that they named it that.
00:37:24.882 --> 00:37:26.262
<ASHLEY>And it was like Hail to St.
00:37:26.262 --> 00:37:26.662
<ASHLEY>Nick.
00:37:26.662 --> 00:37:28.302
<ASHLEY>It's so fucking funny.
00:37:28.302 --> 00:37:28.862
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:37:28.862 --> 00:37:30.102
<BOBBY>Well, I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
00:37:30.102 --> 00:37:37.682
<BOBBY>And like I said, it was nice that he brought a little bit of humor to a pretty heavy storyline if you get into the depths of it, you know?
00:37:37.682 --> 00:37:38.002
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:37:38.002 --> 00:37:41.722
<ASHLEY>I also didn't like that at the beginning, they said pussy a lot.
00:37:41.722 --> 00:37:42.842
<BOBBY>OK.
00:37:43.442 --> 00:37:45.222
<ASHLEY>I mean, I had to say it.
00:37:45.222 --> 00:37:51.362
<ASHLEY>Just in case you hear it the first 45 minutes, like the whole time, you don't really hear it after that.
00:37:51.362 --> 00:37:51.662
<BOBBY>Right.
00:37:51.662 --> 00:37:54.922
<ASHLEY>It's just in that first 45 minutes.
00:37:54.922 --> 00:37:57.402
<BOBBY>That first pre-movie movie.
00:37:57.402 --> 00:37:58.882
<ASHLEY>Here's the prequel to the movie.
00:37:58.882 --> 00:38:00.082
<BOBBY>Yeah, exactly.
00:38:00.082 --> 00:38:01.002
<BOBBY>In real time.
00:38:01.002 --> 00:38:02.402
<ASHLEY>Yeah, the intro.
00:38:04.222 --> 00:38:11.382
<ASHLEY>For the visuals and direction, I really liked the visual grittiness you got by watching the movie.
00:38:11.382 --> 00:38:14.522
<ASHLEY>Because it felt like we were watching real life.
00:38:14.522 --> 00:38:16.282
<ASHLEY>We weren't watching a movie.
00:38:16.282 --> 00:38:16.662
<BOBBY>Right.
00:38:16.662 --> 00:38:31.982
<BOBBY>I know we saw it at home, but the movie was actually shot in VistaVision, which means that, and I had to look this up, they run the film horizontally when they're recording it instead of vertically.
00:38:31.982 --> 00:38:37.342
<BOBBY>And so it allows for these perforations, or they call them like the timing of the frame.
00:38:37.342 --> 00:38:41.482
<BOBBY>Instead of it being four perforations, it's eight perforations.
00:38:41.482 --> 00:38:43.142
<BOBBY>So it makes everything feel wider.
00:38:43.142 --> 00:38:47.482
<BOBBY>So you get so much more in an actual scene, the way that it was shot.
00:38:48.402 --> 00:38:50.622
<BOBBY>And it's called VistaVision.
00:38:50.622 --> 00:38:54.582
<ASHLEY>And that means they're filming it portrait instead of landscape?
00:38:54.582 --> 00:38:54.882
<BOBBY>Right.
00:38:54.882 --> 00:38:56.962
<BOBBY>And so when you see the cameras.
00:38:56.962 --> 00:38:57.162
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:38:57.162 --> 00:39:02.422
<BOBBY>When you see a regular camera on a movie set, it's usually just going around in a circle, right?
00:39:03.042 --> 00:39:05.642
<BOBBY>But for this, they turn it sideways.
00:39:05.642 --> 00:39:09.082
<BOBBY>So it captures more of the environment around it.
00:39:09.082 --> 00:39:16.782
<BOBBY>Whereas if you film it vertically, on if you were to take the film out of the can, there's only four little perforations.
00:39:16.942 --> 00:39:17.922
<ASHLEY>Oh, okay.
00:39:17.922 --> 00:39:26.862
<BOBBY>But because they shoot it with basically the whole horizon, it's kind of like they're doing a panoramic.
00:39:26.862 --> 00:39:27.442
<BOBBY>Correct.
00:39:27.442 --> 00:39:29.222
<ASHLEY>That is so cool.
00:39:29.222 --> 00:39:29.942
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:39:29.942 --> 00:39:41.002
<BOBBY>So yeah, if you took a panoramic picture on your iPhone or whatever else, and you know how that can get in so many more details than just shooting it vertically, that's what they film it on.
00:39:41.002 --> 00:39:46.162
<BOBBY>And it's the second one that's been done in the past, I think they said 20 years.
00:39:46.162 --> 00:39:46.822
<ASHLEY>Wow.
00:39:46.822 --> 00:39:50.642
<BOBBY>Because a lot of places don't show it like that.
00:39:50.642 --> 00:39:53.722
<BOBBY>And so that was another thing that somebody said.
00:39:53.722 --> 00:40:00.942
<BOBBY>They went and saw it in IMAX because it's one of those movies that really, I guess, pulls it all together.
00:40:00.942 --> 00:40:10.942
<BOBBY>And one of the people said at the very end, that whole end scene, they felt like they were on a roller coaster the entire time because of the way that it was shot and the way that it felt in IMAX.
00:40:10.942 --> 00:40:11.802
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:40:11.802 --> 00:40:11.902
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:40:12.102 --> 00:40:13.362
<BOBBY>So that was just going back to the...
00:40:13.362 --> 00:40:15.262
<ASHLEY>That's kind of what it felt like for me too.
00:40:15.262 --> 00:40:21.142
<BOBBY>But they said that it usually, when you shoot it like that, you get that grittiness on the film.
00:40:21.142 --> 00:40:25.262
<BOBBY>So it isn't as clear because it has more information.
00:40:25.262 --> 00:40:27.342
<ASHLEY>That is so interesting.
00:40:27.342 --> 00:40:27.982
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:40:27.982 --> 00:40:32.162
<BOBBY>I didn't want to do that as one of my movie facts because I wanted to save it for visuals.
00:40:32.162 --> 00:40:34.622
<BOBBY>So I'm glad that you brought that up.
00:40:34.622 --> 00:40:36.042
<ASHLEY>That is so cool.
00:40:36.042 --> 00:40:36.542
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:40:36.542 --> 00:40:38.202
<ASHLEY>I really like that.
00:40:38.202 --> 00:40:38.562
<BOBBY>Thank you.
00:40:38.862 --> 00:40:42.222
<ASHLEY>Also, mentioning the car scene.
00:40:42.222 --> 00:40:42.942
<BOBBY>Yes.
00:40:42.942 --> 00:40:59.422
<ASHLEY>Going up and down the hills did feel like a roller coaster, but when we panned back to her face in the car and the camera was obviously on a car doing something because it was really shaking, I thought I was going to be sick watching her.
00:40:59.422 --> 00:41:05.222
<ASHLEY>So because it has such little room that way, that makes a lot more sense.
00:41:05.802 --> 00:41:13.802
<ASHLEY>So movies that we see that move around a lot when they're not still, maybe those films are on VistaVision.
00:41:13.802 --> 00:41:20.882
<BOBBY>Well, they said it's a very unique way of filming it, and there's not a whole lot of movie theaters that can support it.
00:41:20.882 --> 00:41:27.562
<BOBBY>But like I said, this was the second one that's been done in the past couple of years, and I really like the way that it turned out.
00:41:27.562 --> 00:41:31.902
<BOBBY>I guess that's what they used to use a long time ago.
00:41:31.942 --> 00:41:37.682
<BOBBY>But they got into the more the vertical because it was easier to process.
00:41:37.682 --> 00:41:39.062
<ASHLEY>Wow.
00:41:39.062 --> 00:41:39.542
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:41:39.542 --> 00:41:40.222
<ASHLEY>I like it.
00:41:40.222 --> 00:41:40.962
<BOBBY>Very cool.
00:41:40.962 --> 00:41:42.942
<BOBBY>Well, thank you for allowing me to share.
00:41:42.942 --> 00:41:44.722
<ASHLEY>It's my pleasure.
00:41:44.722 --> 00:41:52.662
<ASHLEY>Oh, also I liked that we sat in uncomfortable scenes for longer than necessary.
00:41:52.662 --> 00:41:53.542
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:41:53.542 --> 00:42:00.942
<ASHLEY>It's one of those movies where, I mean, I said this earlier, it's like you don't know what you have until you watch the whole movie.
00:42:00.942 --> 00:42:01.122
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:42:01.562 --> 00:42:06.382
<ASHLEY>So, watching the movie is uncomfortable because life is uncomfortable, so they-
00:42:06.382 --> 00:42:07.042
<BOBBY>Very true.
00:42:07.042 --> 00:42:10.602
<ASHLEY>They really made that feel accurate.
00:42:10.602 --> 00:42:11.362
<BOBBY>Right.
00:42:11.362 --> 00:42:12.482
<BOBBY>Yeah, I could totally see that.
00:42:12.482 --> 00:42:19.242
<BOBBY>There was definitely some very uncomfortable scenes, so be comfortable getting uncomfortable in this movie a little bit.
00:42:19.242 --> 00:42:19.702
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:42:19.702 --> 00:42:22.502
<BOBBY>I also like that there wasn't a ton of CGI.
00:42:22.502 --> 00:42:32.462
<BOBBY>I don't know if there was any really, but there might have been some, so I don't want to say it wasn't at all, but for the most part, everything you saw was real.
00:42:32.462 --> 00:42:36.262
<BOBBY>It felt tangible because of, like you're talking about the grittiness.
00:42:36.262 --> 00:42:43.742
<BOBBY>Everything that you saw kind of just felt the right way, like it feels dirty or it looks too clean or everything's too so pressed.
00:42:43.742 --> 00:42:48.342
<BOBBY>And, you know, they did a fantastic job with direction and visuals that way.
00:42:48.342 --> 00:42:49.322
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:42:49.322 --> 00:43:04.062
<ASHLEY>I think if the movie overall was too visually pretty or high definition, you know, if it looked more like a movie, yeah, it wouldn't have been as realistic.
00:43:04.062 --> 00:43:11.602
<ASHLEY>So if they filmed it in that polished way, it would have just glossed over all the challenges people have right now.
00:43:11.602 --> 00:43:13.602
<BOBBY>Yeah, I agree with you.
00:43:13.602 --> 00:43:20.242
<BOBBY>The only thing I will say is that I really wish they had taken out all of the sex at the very beginning.
00:43:21.202 --> 00:43:23.902
<BOBBY>I'm not a prude or anything, but it's like, I don't need to see this.
00:43:24.322 --> 00:43:26.902
<BOBBY>Maybe it is, maybe it was supposed to be so that way.
00:43:26.902 --> 00:43:29.662
<BOBBY>It felt, made me feel uncomfortable.
00:43:29.662 --> 00:43:31.802
<ASHLEY>Those scenes felt so uncomfortable.
00:43:31.802 --> 00:43:37.222
<ASHLEY>And that's why I disliked Perfidia's character so much.
00:43:37.222 --> 00:43:37.762
<BOBBY>Right.
00:43:37.762 --> 00:43:47.402
<ASHLEY>If we didn't see those uncomfortable sexual scenes, I don't think I would have disliked her as intensely as I did.
00:43:47.402 --> 00:43:48.702
<BOBBY>I mean, that's a great point.
00:43:48.702 --> 00:43:51.322
<BOBBY>I can't disagree with you on that.
00:43:51.322 --> 00:43:53.662
<BOBBY>It's just sometimes you don't know what to expect.
00:43:53.762 --> 00:44:00.362
<BOBBY>And then when it starts getting into that, it's like, okay, like a little bit, I get it's here and there and stuff.
00:44:00.362 --> 00:44:06.282
<BOBBY>But when it starts almost looking like a porn, it's like, this isn't what I really signed up for.
00:44:06.282 --> 00:44:07.122
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:44:07.122 --> 00:44:12.122
<BOBBY>But to your point, I think you make a very excellent observation there.
00:44:12.122 --> 00:44:17.962
<BOBBY>So yeah, I mean, you got to be comfortable being uncomfortable, I guess.
00:44:17.962 --> 00:44:21.162
<ASHLEY>That should be the motto for this movie.
00:44:22.182 --> 00:44:23.702
<BOBBY>Yeah, maybe.
00:44:24.342 --> 00:44:29.322
<ASHLEY>That is exactly, if you want to see it, that's how you are going to feel.
00:44:29.322 --> 00:44:31.622
<ASHLEY>You got to be comfortable with being uncomfortable.
00:44:31.622 --> 00:44:34.682
<BOBBY>Yeah, there you go.
00:44:34.682 --> 00:44:43.202
<BOBBY>Yeah, I think that's a pretty good observation from this movie, is you got to be comfortable being uncomfortable.
00:44:43.202 --> 00:44:47.942
<BOBBY>And maybe that's just what all of that, I guess, was meaning.
00:44:48.342 --> 00:44:52.402
<BOBBY>So, great observation for you, or from you.
00:44:52.402 --> 00:44:55.602
<ASHLEY>Yeah, this movie, that's exactly what it is.
00:44:55.602 --> 00:44:57.582
<ASHLEY>Be comfortable being uncomfortable.
00:44:57.582 --> 00:44:58.822
<BOBBY>There you go.
00:44:58.822 --> 00:45:01.522
<ASHLEY>Would you like to share your score first?
00:45:01.522 --> 00:45:02.222
<BOBBY>Sure.
00:45:02.222 --> 00:45:08.762
<BOBBY>Yeah, so being comfortable being uncomfortable, let me give you the uncomfortability of this score.
00:45:11.142 --> 00:45:14.682
<BOBBY>So, overall, I gave it a 4.25.
00:45:14.682 --> 00:45:16.562
<ASHLEY>Wow, that's so close to me.
00:45:17.022 --> 00:45:17.702
<BOBBY>Oh, good.
00:45:17.702 --> 00:45:19.522
<BOBBY>I'm glad to hear it.
00:45:19.522 --> 00:45:27.422
<BOBBY>I think that this was an incredibly well-made film, and it hooked me after about the first 30 to 45 minutes of the movie.
00:45:27.422 --> 00:45:34.302
<BOBBY>I understand why it's getting so much Oscar buzz and why it receives such high Rotten Tomatoes and audience review scores.
00:45:34.302 --> 00:45:39.762
<BOBBY>I would highly recommend this for at least one watch and maybe one rewatch if you have the time.
00:45:39.762 --> 00:45:46.022
<BOBBY>It does seem like there could have been some time saved by not making things so uncomfortable.
00:45:46.402 --> 00:45:47.282
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:45:47.282 --> 00:45:49.862
<BOBBY>But I thought it was pretty well done overall.
00:45:49.862 --> 00:45:53.182
<BOBBY>And that's the end of my rating.
00:45:53.182 --> 00:45:54.802
<BOBBY>So 4.25.
00:45:54.802 --> 00:45:58.562
<ASHLEY>I scored it a 4.6.
00:45:58.562 --> 00:45:59.562
<BOBBY>Wow.
00:45:59.562 --> 00:45:59.822
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:45:59.822 --> 00:46:10.602
<ASHLEY>Because after watching the entire thing, it's more about showing the audience what real life could be.
00:46:10.602 --> 00:46:10.862
<BOBBY>Right.
00:46:11.342 --> 00:46:20.122
<ASHLEY>So I hope this movie helps people who think this stuff is exaggerated, realize that it isn't.
00:46:20.122 --> 00:46:26.842
<ASHLEY>Like the hate and the corruption that they show in this movie happens in real life, in this country, now.
00:46:26.842 --> 00:46:27.342
<BOBBY>Right.
00:46:27.342 --> 00:46:31.862
<ASHLEY>And a lot of the reviews were like, this is such an exaggeration.
00:46:31.862 --> 00:46:34.022
<ASHLEY>This is not what goes on.
00:46:34.022 --> 00:46:40.262
<ASHLEY>So I think they wanted to show the audience, this is how uncomfortable it is for some people.
00:46:41.242 --> 00:46:48.842
<BOBBY>Yeah, I think if you take a look at it from that viewpoint, there is some stuff that probably was pretty over-exaggerated.
00:46:50.062 --> 00:46:55.402
<BOBBY>But there's also a lot of, I mean, what makes movies good, they get people talking about things.
00:46:55.402 --> 00:46:55.742
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:46:55.742 --> 00:47:00.762
<BOBBY>And I think that that's one of the best parts about this film, because it is very divisive.
00:47:00.762 --> 00:47:04.342
<BOBBY>Some people hate it and some people really love it.
00:47:04.342 --> 00:47:10.902
<BOBBY>And I think that that's the sign of a good movie, is that it didn't pick on any one specific party.
00:47:10.902 --> 00:47:23.222
<BOBBY>It was more of, there's lots of illegal things going on all the time, to your point, but it just shows you what it could be for somebody who is disillusioned.
00:47:23.222 --> 00:47:26.582
<BOBBY>But I think the best part about the movie is it gets people talking.
00:47:26.582 --> 00:47:28.202
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:47:28.202 --> 00:47:29.542
<ASHLEY>I completely agree.
00:47:29.542 --> 00:47:37.262
<ASHLEY>And so I really like the movie as a whole, because it's just, I don't know, a slice out of someone's real life.
00:47:37.262 --> 00:47:38.862
<BOBBY>I mean, it definitely could be.
00:47:38.862 --> 00:47:49.642
<BOBBY>Movies come from the world that we live in and surround us, and telling one person's story doesn't make it true for everyone, but you could at least see where somebody is coming from on a daily basis.
00:47:49.642 --> 00:47:50.462
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:47:50.462 --> 00:47:50.842
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:47:50.842 --> 00:48:06.722
<BOBBY>It's like, you know, not to say anything crazy, but it's like, oh yeah, if you were a retired race car driver, you know, like, what does your life look like after you get done doing the thing and you get into the monotony of just being alive?
00:48:07.482 --> 00:48:17.782
<BOBBY>Or, I don't know, a retired football player that doesn't have a whole lot going on, you know, maybe they didn't have a family or they've lost all their money or something like that.
00:48:17.782 --> 00:48:20.162
<BOBBY>And it shows what their lives have become.
00:48:20.162 --> 00:48:27.642
<BOBBY>Because it's real for some people, but for some other people, it's like, that's so far away from what I can even comprehend is reality.
00:48:27.642 --> 00:48:28.622
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:48:28.622 --> 00:48:31.762
<ASHLEY>And that's, I think that's why I liked it so much.
00:48:32.302 --> 00:48:32.862
<BOBBY>Very cool.
00:48:32.862 --> 00:48:36.322
<BOBBY>Well, I mean, like I said, it's a good take.
00:48:40.862 --> 00:48:43.862
<ASHLEY>Do you have other reviews to read?
00:48:43.862 --> 00:48:45.382
<BOBBY>Oh, I've got a few.
00:48:45.382 --> 00:48:48.742
<BOBBY>I have one, one star and one five star.
00:48:48.742 --> 00:48:49.522
<ASHLEY>Okay.
00:48:49.522 --> 00:48:52.142
<ASHLEY>Would you like to start with your one star review?
00:48:52.142 --> 00:48:53.482
<BOBBY>Oh, absolutely.
00:48:53.482 --> 00:49:02.042
<BOBBY>So this one star review begins with, the worst piece of garbage I've ever seen.
00:49:02.042 --> 00:49:10.322
<BOBBY>Sean Penn and Leonardo DiCaprio must be thoroughly embarrassed to have been a part of this absolute POS.
00:49:10.322 --> 00:49:12.502
<BOBBY>Terrible and unwatchable.
00:49:12.502 --> 00:49:15.762
<BOBBY>I bet you would turn it off in less than 20 minutes.
00:49:15.762 --> 00:49:17.402
<BOBBY>It's that bad.
00:49:17.402 --> 00:49:19.202
<BOBBY>My wife walked out.
00:49:19.202 --> 00:49:21.882
<BOBBY>I would have given it zero stars if I could.
00:49:21.882 --> 00:49:27.962
<BOBBY>Shaving my head with a cheese grater while chewing on tin foil would likely be more enjoyable.
00:49:27.962 --> 00:49:29.742
<BOBBY>End of review.
00:49:29.742 --> 00:49:34.502
<ASHLEY>That, I mean, that's so stupid.
00:49:34.502 --> 00:49:35.082
<BOBBY>I agree.
00:49:35.082 --> 00:49:39.842
<ASHLEY>It's not like, oh, I'd rather jump off a cliff than watch this movie.
00:49:39.842 --> 00:49:40.342
<BOBBY>Right.
00:49:40.342 --> 00:49:50.162
<ASHLEY>It was like, I'd rather put foil in my mouth and chew it around while I use a cheese grater on my scalp.
00:49:50.722 --> 00:49:56.162
<ASHLEY>Like, that's so over the top and specific.
00:49:56.162 --> 00:50:02.822
<BOBBY>I guess they were saying that it, that would be more fun than watching this movie.
00:50:02.822 --> 00:50:06.802
<ASHLEY>It's like when someone uses the word literally too many times.
00:50:06.802 --> 00:50:10.362
<ASHLEY>I literally woke up on Mars this morning.
00:50:10.362 --> 00:50:12.122
<ASHLEY>No, you didn't.
00:50:12.122 --> 00:50:14.982
<ASHLEY>You didn't literally wake up on Mars this morning.
00:50:14.982 --> 00:50:17.442
<ASHLEY>You literally woke up in your bed.
00:50:17.442 --> 00:50:19.642
<ASHLEY>You may have woken up confused.
00:50:20.462 --> 00:50:24.182
<ASHLEY>But you did not wake up on Mars literally, you know?
00:50:24.182 --> 00:50:24.502
<BOBBY>Right.
00:50:24.502 --> 00:50:27.442
<ASHLEY>It just sounds, it reminds me of something like that.
00:50:27.442 --> 00:50:28.822
<BOBBY>Yeah, it's okay.
00:50:28.822 --> 00:50:30.162
<BOBBY>People can have their opinions.
00:50:30.162 --> 00:50:31.322
<ASHLEY>It's true.
00:50:35.162 --> 00:50:38.882
<ASHLEY>This is my one-star review, Slop.
00:50:42.322 --> 00:50:53.642
<ASHLEY>The worst film I have seen this year, almost as bad as last year's much celebrated turkey, Emilia Perez.
00:50:54.762 --> 00:51:00.462
<ASHLEY>This is why people could not care less about Hollywood.
00:51:01.722 --> 00:51:09.322
<ASHLEY>This movie reflects the cynical, soulless ghouls that inhabit that morally askew hellscape.
00:51:10.682 --> 00:51:14.082
<ASHLEY>They can call a director an out tour.
00:51:14.082 --> 00:51:19.762
<ASHLEY>That's just a euphemism in Hollywood for someone who failed to tell a good story.
00:51:19.762 --> 00:51:20.342
<ASHLEY>End of review.
00:51:21.102 --> 00:51:22.562
<BOBBY>I mean, at least it was informative.
00:51:22.562 --> 00:51:25.702
<BOBBY>I hadn't heard that last insult before.
00:51:25.702 --> 00:51:27.802
<ASHLEY>Right?
00:51:27.802 --> 00:51:31.142
<ASHLEY>That's just a euphemism in Hollywood.
00:51:31.142 --> 00:51:31.842
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:51:31.842 --> 00:51:32.962
<BOBBY>Oh.
00:51:32.962 --> 00:51:33.862
<BOBBY>Interesting.
00:51:33.862 --> 00:51:34.862
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:51:34.862 --> 00:51:42.042
<BOBBY>I mean, with both of the one-star reviews, I don't really understand the vitriol behind it.
00:51:42.042 --> 00:51:57.982
<BOBBY>I mean, if you take out everything that you don't want it to be, and you just wanted to say, it's a movie about a dad getting help from his friends to rescue his daughter from a crazed maniac, you'd be like, oh, that's like Die Hard or something.
00:51:57.982 --> 00:51:58.662
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:51:58.662 --> 00:51:59.682
<BOBBY>Right.
00:51:59.682 --> 00:52:10.722
<BOBBY>I guess people are just reading so much into the political aspects of it, which, I mean, it makes sense with the, you know, with everything that's going on in our society and around the world.
00:52:10.722 --> 00:52:11.362
<BOBBY>I get that.
00:52:11.362 --> 00:52:17.862
<BOBBY>But I mean, I saw a whole bunch of stuff online with those one-star reviews that were just sounded all the same.
00:52:18.882 --> 00:52:20.762
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:52:20.762 --> 00:52:23.902
<BOBBY>Yeah, they were not very happy.
00:52:23.902 --> 00:52:27.222
<BOBBY>Did you have any more one-star reviews or was that it?
00:52:27.222 --> 00:52:28.782
<BOBBY>Sometimes you have another one.
00:52:28.782 --> 00:52:31.462
<ASHLEY>OK, I'll read just the first sentence of this other one.
00:52:31.462 --> 00:52:31.602
<BOBBY>OK.
00:52:31.602 --> 00:52:33.762
<ASHLEY>They kind of related.
00:52:33.802 --> 00:52:38.242
<ASHLEY>One battle after another in Hollywood's disconnection from reality.
00:52:38.242 --> 00:52:40.302
<ASHLEY>That's the trailer or that's the title.
00:52:42.762 --> 00:52:49.962
<ASHLEY>One battle after another is being hailed by critics as daring, satirical and politically sharp.
00:52:49.962 --> 00:52:59.402
<ASHLEY>But the truth is, the film reveals far more about Hollywood's own disillusionment with reality than it does about America today.
00:52:59.482 --> 00:53:01.782
<ASHLEY>End of sentence.
00:53:01.782 --> 00:53:02.942
<BOBBY>Oh, wow.
00:53:04.062 --> 00:53:08.562
<BOBBY>Like I said, that's the reason why I thought it was with your review.
00:53:08.562 --> 00:53:20.902
<BOBBY>I thought it was very, you know, spot on because there is, because there are people that are going to see this and think like that could never happen.
00:53:20.902 --> 00:53:21.862
<ASHLEY>Yes.
00:53:21.862 --> 00:53:25.502
<BOBBY>But then there's people that live it and that's what goes on in their daily life.
00:53:25.502 --> 00:53:28.642
<BOBBY>Now, I'm not saying everything that happened in the movie is real.
00:53:29.162 --> 00:53:33.022
<BOBBY>It's just that could be a person's perspective that that is their life.
00:53:33.022 --> 00:53:40.162
<BOBBY>Kind of like I said with the retired football player or race car driver, that's so far away from our minds that you could never imagine that.
00:53:40.162 --> 00:53:45.382
<BOBBY>Like I can't imagine being a revolutionary and then trying to raise a kid and always being paranoid.
00:53:45.382 --> 00:53:46.622
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:53:46.622 --> 00:53:49.462
<ASHLEY>Or hiding people like Anne Frank was.
00:53:49.462 --> 00:53:50.162
<BOBBY>Right.
00:53:50.162 --> 00:53:51.542
<BOBBY>What do you say, Harriet Tubman?
00:53:51.542 --> 00:53:54.082
<ASHLEY>Harriet Tubman, sneaking them to the north.
00:53:54.082 --> 00:53:54.622
<BOBBY>Right.
00:53:54.622 --> 00:54:08.822
<BOBBY>It was just, yeah, it's very, like I said, I like, I think the good thing is, is it opens discussion and I could see if, if some people want to call it out as being too political.
00:54:08.822 --> 00:54:16.382
<BOBBY>OK, but what you have to understand is that could be some, someone's actual reality.
00:54:16.382 --> 00:54:16.942
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:54:16.942 --> 00:54:17.882
<ASHLEY>That's so true.
00:54:17.882 --> 00:54:19.782
<ASHLEY>It's not political at all.
00:54:19.782 --> 00:54:22.142
<ASHLEY>It's just showing you what's actually going on.
00:54:22.142 --> 00:54:25.142
<ASHLEY>Oh, if you're interpreting it in a political way, that's interesting.
00:54:25.902 --> 00:54:26.162
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:54:26.162 --> 00:54:28.742
<BOBBY>I mean, there's obviously a lot of political undertones in it.
00:54:28.742 --> 00:54:32.842
<BOBBY>The whole thing of them trying to stand up against the government and be revolutionaries.
00:54:32.842 --> 00:54:33.362
<ASHLEY>Right.
00:54:33.362 --> 00:54:36.942
<BOBBY>Well, like I said, good movies create dialogue.
00:54:36.942 --> 00:54:41.602
<BOBBY>So I'll be interesting that I have a few friends at work that have seen it.
00:54:41.602 --> 00:54:43.282
<BOBBY>And we just finished it tonight.
00:54:43.282 --> 00:54:46.202
<BOBBY>So it'll be interesting to talk to them and hear what they have to say about it, too.
00:54:46.202 --> 00:54:47.642
<ASHLEY>Exactly.
00:54:47.642 --> 00:54:48.182
<BOBBY>All right.
00:54:48.182 --> 00:54:49.682
<BOBBY>Here's a five star rating.
00:54:49.682 --> 00:54:53.902
<BOBBY>So probably be a little bit more positive than the last two that we just read.
00:54:54.062 --> 00:54:54.502
<ASHLEY>Oh, good.
00:54:56.722 --> 00:54:58.762
<BOBBY>Best Movie of the Year.
00:54:58.762 --> 00:55:05.082
<BOBBY>Funny, action-packed, great story, incredible acting, literally everything you can want in a movie.
00:55:05.082 --> 00:55:09.722
<BOBBY>Sean Penn has to win an Oscar for his role alone in this film.
00:55:10.802 --> 00:55:17.062
<BOBBY>And shot on Panavision, which sorry to that person out there is actually, I double-check because I thought I was going to get it wrong.
00:55:17.062 --> 00:55:18.042
<BOBBY>It is VistaVision.
00:55:19.782 --> 00:55:25.582
<BOBBY>Shot on Panavision and projected in 70-millimeter film?
00:55:25.582 --> 00:55:27.062
<BOBBY>Question mark?
00:55:27.062 --> 00:55:30.102
<BOBBY>Yeah, nothing compares this year.
00:55:30.102 --> 00:55:31.642
<BOBBY>End of review.
00:55:31.642 --> 00:55:32.802
<ASHLEY>Nice.
00:55:32.802 --> 00:55:34.122
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:55:34.122 --> 00:55:36.322
<ASHLEY>That was a, that's a great review.
00:55:36.322 --> 00:55:37.022
<BOBBY>I think so.
00:55:37.022 --> 00:55:41.002
<BOBBY>I think they were just trying to be as honest as they possibly could with what they saw.
00:55:41.002 --> 00:55:42.022
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:55:42.082 --> 00:55:43.102
<BOBBY>All right.
00:55:44.682 --> 00:55:46.962
<BOBBY>You get the final five star of the day.
00:55:46.962 --> 00:55:50.082
<ASHLEY>Okay.
00:55:50.082 --> 00:55:52.422
<BOBBY>Sounded so enthused.
00:55:52.422 --> 00:55:52.882
<ASHLEY>Okay.
00:55:52.882 --> 00:55:57.962
<ASHLEY>So I have one that's nice and then I have like a bonus one.
00:55:57.962 --> 00:55:58.222
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:55:58.222 --> 00:55:59.522
<ASHLEY>That's kind of fun.
00:55:59.522 --> 00:56:00.702
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:56:00.702 --> 00:56:02.442
<ASHLEY>So here's my five star review.
00:56:02.482 --> 00:56:03.142
<BOBBY>Okay.
00:56:03.142 --> 00:56:05.762
<ASHLEY>Brilliant.
00:56:05.762 --> 00:56:11.042
<ASHLEY>I persuaded my husband to watch this as I heard such great things about it.
00:56:11.042 --> 00:56:17.402
<ASHLEY>He was reluctant to say the least, but my goodness, we both loved it.
00:56:17.402 --> 00:56:20.022
<ASHLEY>It is funny in an incidental way.
00:56:20.022 --> 00:56:23.822
<ASHLEY>Bob spends a majority of the time in a dressing gown.
00:56:23.822 --> 00:56:29.102
<ASHLEY>The banality of the white supremacy group in their ridiculous meeting room with a special knock.
00:56:30.182 --> 00:56:38.042
<ASHLEY>This is a glever and thoughtful film, and I have no doubt that when I watch it again, I'll see more.
00:56:38.062 --> 00:56:50.642
<ASHLEY>One thing that really tickled me was just how ridiculously easy it was to make everyone talk and how everyone in the real world does just blurt out the truth, even when they're under the slightest pressure.
00:56:50.642 --> 00:56:57.682
<ASHLEY>Watch it, give yourself time, enjoy the humor and the fantastic storytelling.
00:56:57.682 --> 00:56:59.082
<ASHLEY>End of review.
00:56:59.082 --> 00:57:00.682
<BOBBY>Oh, nice.
00:57:00.682 --> 00:57:09.242
<BOBBY>Well, hey, like I said, if you can make a film where this many people have these many different, differing viewpoints on it, it means you've done something right.
00:57:09.242 --> 00:57:10.322
<BOBBY>So that's a great review.
00:57:10.322 --> 00:57:11.902
<ASHLEY>I agree.
00:57:11.902 --> 00:57:17.762
<ASHLEY>Okay, now here is my second five-star review.
00:57:17.762 --> 00:57:19.422
<BOBBY>Okay, this is a bonus review.
00:57:19.902 --> 00:57:20.602
<ASHLEY>It's pretty short.
00:57:22.882 --> 00:57:27.442
<ASHLEY>Straight Heat, this film is so tough.
00:57:27.442 --> 00:57:30.242
<ASHLEY>Enjoyed it every bit, fam.
00:57:30.242 --> 00:57:37.842
<ASHLEY>Character development and then overall acting performances from Sean Penn, Leo DiCaprio, Teyana Taylor and Chase Infiniti.
00:57:37.842 --> 00:57:40.742
<ASHLEY>Bro, this whole movie is incredible.
00:57:40.742 --> 00:57:45.262
<ASHLEY>The cinematography was peak and the plotline was unique and incredible.
00:57:45.262 --> 00:57:49.062
<ASHLEY>This film gonna bring back traditional cinema, dog.
00:57:50.742 --> 00:57:52.442
<ASHLEY>End of review.
00:57:52.442 --> 00:57:53.302
<BOBBY>Hey.
00:57:53.302 --> 00:57:57.782
<ASHLEY>I was like, that is such a fun review and also it was a really good one.
00:57:57.782 --> 00:57:58.962
<BOBBY>Yeah.
00:57:58.962 --> 00:58:05.722
<BOBBY>Nailed a whole bunch of things that they really enjoyed about the movie and got to use some modern day terminology.
00:58:05.722 --> 00:58:07.302
<ASHLEY>Some modern day lingo.
00:58:07.302 --> 00:58:09.282
<BOBBY>Yeah, exactly.
00:58:09.282 --> 00:58:10.822
<BOBBY>I like that you finished with that one.
00:58:10.822 --> 00:58:11.302
<ASHLEY>Thanks.
00:58:11.302 --> 00:58:13.942
<ASHLEY>I thought it'd be fun to move it to the end.
00:58:13.942 --> 00:58:14.182
<ASHLEY>Yeah.
00:58:14.182 --> 00:58:15.482
<ASHLEY>So that we end laughing.
00:58:18.942 --> 00:58:22.202
<BOBBY>Well, another Microsode in the books.
00:58:22.202 --> 00:58:23.342
<BOBBY>There it is.
00:58:23.342 --> 00:58:24.182
<BOBBY>I had a blast.
00:58:24.182 --> 00:58:25.942
<ASHLEY>Another Microsode in the can.
00:58:26.022 --> 00:58:27.322
<ASHLEY>Isn't that what you said before?
00:58:27.322 --> 00:58:30.182
<BOBBY>Yeah, it was because that's what they call in the movies.
00:58:30.182 --> 00:58:31.762
<ASHLEY>That's so smart.
00:58:31.762 --> 00:58:32.942
<ASHLEY>I mean, I didn't know.
00:58:32.942 --> 00:58:34.602
<BOBBY>Well, there you go.
00:58:34.602 --> 00:58:39.182
<BOBBY>Maybe you learn something educational every now and again on this podcast.
00:58:39.182 --> 00:58:41.002
<ASHLEY>Yes, including the movie facts.
00:58:41.722 --> 00:58:46.442
<BOBBY>Yeah, and stuff about that goes on with the movie as well.
00:58:46.442 --> 00:58:47.642
<ASHLEY>So true.
00:58:48.662 --> 00:58:53.102
<BOBBY>Well, once again, thank you guys very much for tuning in.
00:58:53.102 --> 00:58:56.522
<BOBBY>Thank you for all of your comments and downloads.
00:58:56.522 --> 00:58:57.862
<ASHLEY>Thank you.
00:58:57.862 --> 00:59:03.442
<BOBBY>And emails and all the other wonderful things that you guys do to support us.
00:59:03.442 --> 00:59:06.862
<BOBBY>So I think that's it for tonight.
00:59:06.862 --> 00:59:08.282
<ASHLEY>I think so.
00:59:08.282 --> 00:59:08.682
<BOBBY>Awesome.
00:59:09.062 --> 00:59:13.342
<BOBBY>Well, we'll see you next time on another episode of MICROSODES.